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Old 06-02-2008, 08:54 PM #1
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eer.... your 'evidance' doesnt show the %,

you dont even state the benefits you claim to be having by copying the netherlands.

The USA economy and the UKs econmoy are higher than the Netherlands, what benefits from what country?

you may feel safer from crime in certain states BECUASE AMERICA IS A BIGGER COUNTRY THAN A VIRTUAL ISLAND THE THE NETHERLANDS IS.

i just keep repeating my self...

America has a far more liberal minded culture (DESPITE THE DIVERSE STATES), there is far more less racism (take note), far less technological advancement, and far less suicide rate per %, far more athletical (do you want stats on the olympics)

would you think cannabis would improve the economy of the USA and the UK, so much so as like the netherlands
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eer.... your 'evidance' doesnt show the %,

you dont even state the benefits you claim to be having by copying the netherlands.

The USA economy and the UKs econmoy are higher than the Netherlands, what benefits from what country?

you may feel safer from crime in certain states BECUASE AMERICA IS A BIGGER COUNTRY THAN A VIRTUAL ISLAND THE THE NETHERLANDS IS.

i just keep repeating my self...

America has a far more liberal minded culture (DESPITE THE DIVERSE STATES), there is far more less racism (take note), far less technological advancement, and far less suicide rate per %, far more athletical (do you want stats on the olympics)

Try "READING" all of the information, where it explains these are statistics per 100,000 of the population (standard measurement). The Netherlands suicide rate is 19.3 (combined) per 100,000, US is 21.7, UK is 15.2. So the US is the HIGHEST!

I did give you benefits, you just haven't listened. Less people sent to prison for small amounts of cannabis caused by relaxing the laws on possesion frees up our over crowded prison system.

And yes, I would feel safer in the UK or netherlands as proven by our much lower homicide rates as a percentage and the fact handguns are illegal. Your 'island' comment is irrelevant.

Suicide rate is higher in the US. The link I posted is from 'WHO' (World Health Organisation) and the authority on statistics such as these. Also, your 'liberal' comment is opinion. I believe the netherlands is more liberal than the US.

Evidence shows your arguments are false so you are just wasting my time...
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:09 PM #3
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The netherlands, belgium and ETC (some of the region) are higher in the suicde rate in the world... some how you escaped that.

you said belgium and ETC so dont tell me im getting petty over it.

what you keep escapeing also is that results THE US HAVE COMPARED TO HOLLAND.

WHO HAS THE HIGHER ECONOMY OUT OF HOLLAND AND THE USA??

WERE ARE HOLLANDS RESULTS THERE?
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if you took the regions bloc around Holland to MAKE IT UP AS MUCH AS THE USA, IN ECONOMY AND LAND AND POPULATION


THERE POLICIES OF ECONOMY AND CULTURE... ARE INFERIOR THE TO USA
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if you took the regions bloc around Holland to MAKE IT UP AS MUCH AS THE USA, IN ECONOMY AND LAND AND POPULATION


THERE POLICIES OF ECONOMY AND CULTURE... ARE INFERIOR THE TO USA
How about literacy

Lol, either take my evidence or leave it!
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When you say you want it to be more like "The netherlands, Belgium etc" you didnt state what all those countries such as belgium, holland and etc have in common, apart from the fact that they all have less foriegners.

is that what you meant you want your country to be like ... like holland, belguum and etc (similar countries)

you know like those countries who have the highest suicide rate in the world?
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you provided nothing but speculation, what evidance?

you dont provide anything of what holland, belgium etc can benefit the UK?
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Ok, I'll make it really simple then. I prefer the Netherlands to the US. I don't want the UK to be more like the US.

Also, you were wrong about suicide rates and drug abuse and the evidence is in the links I have given.

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lmao

Spell out which top countries have the high suicide rate in the world??

you can choose not to believe it all you want
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For those who haven't been to America and have only seen what its like on TV, its good but nothing to write home about. Its not as good as its made out to be and I still prefer places like Spain and Portugal.
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and by the look in your face i think my assumption of "people have more fun in london (more foriengers) than in sheffield" seems to be more truer


etc. USA > UK > HOLLAND > LITHUINIA
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and by the look in your face i think my assumption of "people have more fun in london (more foriengers) than in sheffield" seems to be more truer
Thats out of order and uncalled for. This forum is serious debates, not 'lets win an argument through making personal digs'.
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Thanks Tom

This member is just getting petty now *ignores*
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awww how cute "Thanks Tom", I need some one to back me up now


you havent provided nothing but speculation and opinions, with false facts.

calling me petty with speculative facts i just low
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and i only said that comment below is becuase thats what I believed to be your intention of your opinion, becuase its so transparent, mainly becuase you havent SAID WHAT ALL THE COUNTRIES LIKE THE NETHERLANDS, AND BELGIUM AND ETC, ARE WHAT YOU WANT FROM THEM

soo.. i think i was right
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I think the USA is our closest ally for a number of obvious reasons, and to be honest, without that strong relationship we'd be in a much less politically stable environment. I don't think, however, that we're played like pawns by the US, and it's just a symbol of our political strengths that we agree on almost everything
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awww how cute "Thanks Tom", I need some one to back me up now
Obnoxious much? You had just tried insulting him admitted it was incredibly lame on your part. . I always say the one who resorts to petty insults first must have lost the argument. Sorry


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Its even obsurd to think that the Netherlands have higher technology than in the USA, ...
OMG how absurd! America is No1 at everything right?


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and i only said that comment below is becuase thats what I believed to be your intention of your opinion, becuase its so transparent, mainly becuase you havent SAID WHAT ALL THE COUNTRIES LIKE THE NETHERLANDS, AND BELGIUM AND ETC, ARE WHAT YOU WANT FROM THEM

soo.. i think i was right
Do you actually have any idea what you mean half the time because I have no clue! Yeah your spelling grammar and general literacy really is THAT bad! And for the record you were wrong. US DOES have higher rates of drug abuse on nearly everything and a slightly higher suicide rate and the fact the population is higher isnt important as the stats are per 100,000 people but you seem to have difficulty understanding this


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you havent provided nothing but speculation and opinions, with false facts.

calling me petty with speculative facts i just low
No you are petty for far more reasons than that and whos speculating again? Just because matt accused you of speculating. I noticed you refused to accept all evidence given to you. Tell me are you just arguing for the sake of it? You seem like one of those Americans that just want to think america is the best no matter what and will attack anyone that has another opinion. Sort of the problem with the US in general isnt it?


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and by the look in your face i think my assumption of "people have more fun in london (more foriengers) than in sheffield" seems to be more truer


etc. USA > UK > HOLLAND > LITHUINIA
Yeah you don’t speculate and arent petty at all right? lol


Anyways back on to the topic this idiot ruined Id say the UK is not the 51st state. As a person thats lived in both Id say they are to different to compare
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I genuinly cannot believe you followed 3 pages to make a remark, geeez you must hate the fact Cannabis is illegal




Bottom line of my argument (which he seems to be against)

he wants policies that holland, belgium and etc have?

he NEVER stated what those policies THOSE countries have that he wants.

after that he speculated that the UK would be a better place if Cannabis & Prostitution was legalised in the UK... i was getting at the fact that our economies would fall as low as THE NETHERLANDS



... or are you now gonna critisize the social atmosphere on this debate, or maybe grammer, or maybe something , oooo knows..
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I genuinly cannot believe you followed 3 pages to make a remark, geeez you must hate the fact Cannabis is illegal




Bottom line of my argument (which he seems to be against)

he wants policies that holland, belgium and etc have?

he NEVER stated what those policies THOSE countries have that he wants.

after that he speculated that the UK would be a better place if Cannabis & Prostitution was legalised in the UK... i was getting at the fact that our economies would fall as low as THE NETHERLANDS



... or are you now going to critisize the social atmosphere on this debate, or maybe grammer, or maybe something , oooo knows..

what has following this discussion got to do with hating cannabis being illegal or otherwise? You jump to a lot of stupid conclusions. And I think you really need to work on your communication skills because theres a way of saying things and you just came off looking silly trying to insult people. Oh and your grammar is pretty awful sometimes since you mentioned it. It can be pretty difficult to understand you at times. On topic Id say im not surprised he or anyone in the UK would rather be like Holland than the US; who wants to be like the US these days seriously? Also how did you come to the conclusion that legalising cannabis and prostitution was the reason behind hollands lower economy? If you look up there GDP per capita its actually level with the US and UK and I find this more accurate prediction of standard of life there than economy
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Bottom line of my argument (which he seems to be against)

he wants policies that holland, belgium and etc have?

he NEVER stated what those policies THOSE countries have that he wants.

after that he speculated that the UK would be a better place if Cannabis & Prostitution was legalised in the UK... i was getting at the fact that our economies would fall as low as THE NETHERLANDS
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Bottom line of my argument (which he seems to be against)

he wants policies that holland, belgium and etc have?

he NEVER stated what those policies THOSE countries have that he wants.

after that he speculated that the UK would be a better place if Cannabis & Prostitution was legalised in the UK... i was getting at the fact that our economies would fall as low as THE NETHERLANDS

I dont just judge whether a country is worth living in or not based on its economy. Did you know Ireland consistently tops life satisfaction surveys and that is a far smaller economy than the US? Also Netherlands economy might be lower but its GDP per capita is the same and this is more important. And you are kinda just repeating yourself over and over and not really listening. Im starting to think you arent worth bothering with
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Bottom line of my argument (which he seems to be against)

he wants policies that holland, belgium and etc have?

he NEVER stated what those policies THOSE countries have that he wants.

after that he speculated that the UK would be a better place if Cannabis & Prostitution was legalised in the UK... i was getting at the fact that our economies would fall as low as THE NETHERLANDS




HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


HASSSSSSSNNT

STTTTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAATTTEEEEDD

WHAT

HE

LIKES

ABOUT THOSE COUNTRIES


POLICIES


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





FFSS!! GOD THE BRITISH ARE THE MOST SADDEST DEPRESSED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD

IS THERE ANY WONDER WHY SO MUCH PEOPLE IMMIGRATED TO AMERICA


GOD END OF, I HAVE NO MORE TIME FOR THIS ITS SOO BORING

I JUST KEEP REPEATING MY SELF


HAVE A GOOD TIME LIVING IN SUCH A DEPRESSED AREA OF THE WORLD




WERE THE SUICIDE RATE IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HIGH!



END OF YOUR , YOUR BORING AS HELL
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this is all stemmed from the utter BULLSHIT, that you would want to live in the most boringest place in the WORLD, BELGIUM & HOLLAND


SO YOU WOULD HAVE MORE FUN IN BELGIUM, HOLLAND OR LITHUANA THAN YOU WOULD IN...

IN LA, NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA???????????????????????




THE TRUE ANSWER IS YES, BUT THE REASON YOU BAD MOUTH AMERICA IS BECUASE YOU DONT LIKE THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE MORE EQUAL THERE
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I think Im just going to laugh;
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yeahs and id rather live in rotterdahm and lithuania, maybe belgium instead of LA, New York, Texas, California, Miami

oh, the fun im missing out on living here in the USA
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