[arista]

He has no bail yet.


The judge is Holding onto him.

Meanwhile Crazy Yanks are saying
he should be killed.

[arista]

The Lawyer talking to the Press.

Some Stupid Yanks on Fox News - think they can get him taken to America
they do not even tell there viewers what the real reason
he is being held for.

[arista]

The Lawyer is now Live on Ch4News
he does not see why his man
is now in Wandsworth Prison.


John Snow
was alarmed at Stephens saying 'Darker Forces'

The Lawyer thinks it is Political.

On America they seem to skip why he is there
and think its a Arrest for them?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

The Lawyer is now Live on Ch4News
he does not see why his man
is now in Wandsworth Prison.


John Snow
was alarmed at Stephens saying 'Darker Forces'

The Lawyer thinks it is Political.

On America they seem to skip why he is there
and think its a Arrest for them?

It is an arrest for them, the judge who initially dropped the charges against was leaned on by a highly placed politician and the number of charges was increased, reinstalling the originals plus.

Wouldnt surprise me if he does get extradited to Sweden, he finds himself being extradited to the states.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Shasown

It is an arrest for them, the judge who initially dropped the charges against was leaned on by a highly placed politician and the number of charges was increased, reinstalling the originals plus.

Wouldnt surprise me if he does get extradited to Sweden, he finds himself being extradited to the states.

But Sweden says no Yank deal?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

But Sweden says no Yank deal?

Yeah and all politicians and lawyers always tell the truth.

It also gives the US time to scour both their laws and ours and put together a case for the UK to extradite him directly to the US over Sweden, we do have an expedited extradition treaty with the US, which they will probably use to claim him.

The US UK Treaty is very one sided in their favour and allows them to apply for extradition to the US for crimes against US Law even though they were committed elsewhere, and the level of proof for them to apply is significantly lower than we would need to apply for them to extradite someone in the US to us.

They have a minimum of just under a week to sort something out either with us or the Swedes. He isnt going anywhere which will please the Yanks as they were panicking that he may skip to a country without an extradition treaty with them should they decide to prosecute.

[arista]

The Fight is still Cooking.

[billy123]

Only three days ago it was claimed that wikileaks were teetering on the edge of being shutdown after being forced to move to the pirate party host now only days later time are reporting that wikileaks is now being hosted by 507 hosts spread all over the world.

source: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...035817,00.html

In addition to that the site is also being mirrored by a further 1334 sites from every corner of the globe.
http://wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html

Wikileaks just became untouchable.

[arista]

Its all getting out of hand.
Credit Card Hacking - not nice.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-Payback.html

[billy123]

And so the battle begins.

[arista]

Down Under in Brisbane

[arista]

Operation Payback fails to take down Amazon com in WikiLeaks revenge attack



http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...eaks-anonymous

[billy123]

Mahatma Gandhi. “He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither”

Youtube video

http://files.hl2forums.com/uploads/1..._LOIC_v0_1.htm

[billy123]

One of the most revealing releases and shows of US arrogance towards other nations so far for me.

The US kidnap an innocent German citizen whose name just happens to be the same as a wanted terrorist, he is subject to rendition to the middle east where he is tortured and sodomized by his torturers and then eventually - when the US finally work out that he is not the man they want - he is dumped by the roadside in Albania.

The US government then appies political pressure to the German government not to arrest the CIA operatives responsible for this crime and even a country as rich and powerful as Germany bows down and does nothing to protect its citizens.

This case – regarding Khaled El Masari is well known in Germany – read about it here.

http://www.aclu.org/national-securit...-and-rendition

Given how the US government arranges the torture of innocent people and then pressures the German government to do nothing to the prepetrators, anyone who thinks the arrest and detention of Julian Assange for "holding a person down forcefully with his arms" and failing to use a condom during consensual intercourse is not politically motivated is a naive fool.

I hope the Swedish people hold their government to account. Try Assagne on the charges in Sweden by all means, but do not allow his extradition to America where he will become a political prisoner subject to torture and possibly even execution.

[arista]

Yes America
does not want this info public.

Until Barrack says what he wants in Law
it is never ending flow.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by bobnot

One of the most revealing releases and shows of US arrogance towards other nations so far for me.

The US kidnap an innocent German citizen whose name just happens to be the same as a wanted terrorist, he is subject to rendition to the middle east where he is tortured and sodomized by his torturers and then eventually - when the US finally work out that he is not the man they want - he is dumped by the roadside in Albania.

The US government then appies political pressure to the German government not to arrest the CIA operatives responsible for this crime and even a country as rich and powerful as Germany bows down and does nothing to protect its citizens.

This case – regarding Khaled El Masari is well known in Germany – read about it here.

http://www.aclu.org/national-securit...-and-rendition

There is no evidence for this case at all. You do know that arabs have been trained to LIE and fabricate stories as propaganda against the US, right?

Terrorists learn how to exagerate stories and make themselves into victims as a form of propaganda. It's well known. Just like they know to hide behind women and children, so when they are attacked, they use them as human shields, so that it makes America look bad. They want as many civilian casualties as possible.

You are incredibly naive if you believe the word of an arab over the word of an American.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

There is no evidence for this case at all. You do know that arabs have been trained to LIE and fabricate stories as propaganda against the US, right?

Terrorists learn how to exagerate stories and make themselves into victims as a form of propaganda. It's well known. Just like they know to hide behind women and children, so when they are attacked, they use them as human shields, so that it makes America look bad. They want as many civilian casualties as possible.

You are incredibly naive if you believe the word of an arab over the word of an American.

No I think it is you who are deluded, did you read the link posted?

Are you saying the document is not from the person stated about this case?

The document, a 2007 cable from the U.S. Embassy in Berlin, describes a meeting during which the then-deputy chief of the U.S. mission to Germany, John M. Koenig, urged German officials to "weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S." of issuing international arrest warrants in the El-Masri case

Rendition type flights have been used for over 30 years. Prior to persons of Middle Eastern origin, it used to be Latin Americans who copped a free ride on CIA airlines.

[lostalex]

Yea, against terrorists who harmed national interests. What's wrong with that?

Just cause there isn't enuf evidence to convict them in a court of law, doesn't mean they are innocent. That's all i'm saying. the terrorists are well trained about our justice system, and know how to manipulate it to their advantage.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Yea, against terrorists who harmed national interests. What's wrong with that?

Just cause there isn't enuf evidence to convict them in a court of law, doesn't mean they are innocent. That's all i'm saying. the terrorists are well trained about our justice system, and know how to manipulate it to their advantage.

Errr no the Central and South American citizens that flew with your delightful intelligence chappies included left wing politicians, political activists and some criminals including Drug Lords etc.

Hardly out to blow up the White House. But hey they really did threaten Moms Apple Pie and the American way of life eh?

[Snaked Worm]

The american response is frankly embarrassing and shameful and the fact that some try and defend it is a sign of how institutionalised they have become its almost like they accept being kept almost like pets or children and told what is good for them.

The releases are hardly earth shattering so far we all knew how overbearing,deceptive,controlling and arrogant the american goverment were.

The big difference now is they cant pretend otherwise anymore they were frankly stupid to think they could rule the world and make no mistake thats the illusion that they have been under for many years now.

Piss off america you might be able to keep the majority of your own country ignorant to the opinion of the rest of the world but thats where it ends.

The fifth reich just fell on its arse.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Snaked Worm

The american response is frankly embarrassing and shameful and the fact that some try and defend it is a sign of how institutionalised they have become its almost like they accept being kept almost like pets or children and told what is good for them.

The releases are hardly earth shattering so far we all knew how overbearing,deceptive,controlling and arrogant the american goverment were.

The big difference now is they cant pretend otherwise anymore they were frankly stupid to think they could rule the world and make no mistake thats the illusion that they have been under for many years now.

Piss off america you might be able to keep the majority of your own country ignorant to the opinion of the rest of the world but thats where it ends.

The fifth reich just fell on its arse.

And you can piss off with yur socialist ostrich-head-in-the-sand APPEASEMENT strategies that lead you into 2 world wars that AMERICA had to bail you out of.

You're lucky your'e so profitable to us. Make sure that doesn't change, for your own sake.

And stop crying every time Obama doesn't give you enuf attention. "wahhh obama returned winston churchill's bust, wahhh obama gave Brown a bunch of DVD's, WAHHH America doesn't love us anymore!"

And i wonder why....???

Grow the eff up Europe, srsly.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

And you can piss off with yur socialist ostrich-head-in-the-sand APPEASEMENT strategies that lead you into 2 world wars that AMERICA had to bail you out of.

You're lucky your'e so profitable to us. Make sure that doesn't change, for your own sake.

And stop crying every time Obama doesn't give you enuf attention. "wahhh obama returned winston churchill's bust, wahhh obama gave Brown a bunch of DVD's, WAHHH America doesn't love us anymore!"

And i wonder why....???

Grow the eff up Europe, srsly.

I would recommend you find a good unbiased book or internet site on history and read up on both world wars if I was you before making such rash claims.

Otherwise you will only make yourself look like an ignorant spam who thinks the universe revolves around the US.....

OOops that warning came a little late.

Soooooooorrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy.

You didnt bother replying to the party invite till you knew which way the party was going in the first one.

The second one was won by the Russians not you, you helped us a little bit is all. Purely out of self interest. Thats why you stayed off the mainland of Europe till Germany had all but spent itself against the Soviets.

You should also remember that soon you wont be THE major player in world politics or that big a player in world economics.

Oooops again too late.

[arista]

Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks has been released on bail with strict conditions.


He is out now and can now speed up more leaks.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...ict_Conditions

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks has been released on bail with strict conditions.


He is out now and can now speed up more leaks.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...ict_Conditions

Oh dear standby for a major illinformed rant about justice etc from our resident Sherman.

[arista]

They have to pay £240,000
to the court , no cheque.


A Nightclub owner
has given the court a London address for Assange.


The Lawyer has just said Live
they have put the begging bowl out
to get that high cash amount.


Sweden has put in a appeal
but since he has a place to stay
its though he should still be out on bail.