[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Pretty much yes he is acting like a 12 year old brat and i see he is pretty much hated everywhere online except here which makes me happy :~)

yep this forum is an Arron safe zone but outside of here everyone else can see what we can see..there are more and more who see it everyday too as far as I can see

[In the Drunk Tank]

I wouldnt say he's hated everywhere else online at all, he's leading the "Favourite Housemate" poll on DS as well

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

yep this forum is an Arron safe zone but outside of here everyone else can see what we can see..there are more and more who see it everyday too as far as I can see

Aaron is not hated at all,but if it makes you feel better you keep telling yourself that,Most of US see what a few REFUSE to

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Wee-Mo

aaron needs to grow a set of balls he should have told jay exactly what he was miffed about but was to scared to,

What programme are you watching fgs? - he did tell him. There's probably a lot more history between Aaron and Jay as well that we haven't been shown, and Jay understood exactly what Aaron was saying.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on

No, I think you'll find that is just your conclusion. The rest of us will continue to debate the point without others deciding when the subject is closed.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by angus58

What programme are you watching fgs? - he did tell him. There's probably a lot more history between Aaron and Jay as well that we haven't been shown, and Jay understood exactly what Aaron was saying.

It was interesting when Jay referred to Aaron's popularity because of the crowd cheers when he was up...seems to me a lot of the housemates started resenting Aaron from that time..it's like Jay's struggling to keep that resentment under control..

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Aaron is not hated at all,but if it makes you feel better you keep telling yourself that,Most of US see what a few REFUSE to

I don't think he's hated, those were Bobnots words but I share his sentiment that Arron is not nearly as liked as the Arron fans in here would like us to believe.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I don't think he's hated, those were Bobnots words but I share his sentiment that Arron is not nearly as liked as the Arron fans in here would like us to believe.

Aaron is second fave to win after Alex, and is also Top Male Fave across all betting sites, and Harry is continuously closing the gap with Jay and will soon overtake him.

Aaron also tops the poll on here as well as on Digital Spy where he has 39.18% of the vote, Harry has 24.46% whilst poor old Jay has just 3.26% of the vote

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not the fault of Aaron fans if the haters can't interpret the figures.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by angus58

Aaron is second fave to win after Alex, and is also Top Male Fave across all betting sites, and Harry is continuously closing the gap with Jay and will soon overtake him.

Aaron also tops the poll on here as well as on Digital Spy where he has 39.18% of the vote, Harry has 24.46% whilst poor old Jay has just 3.26% of the vote

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not the fault of Aaron fans if the haters can't interpret the figures.

He is also one of the least favourites on ds polls

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on

I think he will, I doubt he and Jay will ever get firendly because for some reasons that we haven't likely seen due to editing he is well aware he cannot trust Jay and Anton.

I wouldn't trust or mix with Jay if I was in the house, from what I see of him in the house, it would be harder with Anton because his 2 facedness is done in the diary room.

I watched the highlights last night and the night before, Aaron seems really glad Faye has stayed, I really believe he does like her and think she does him too.
Maisy said they intend to see each other on the outside as sort of dating so it's clear they do like each other.

Now he's got over the Faye/Maisy incident of a few weeks ago, I hope he picks up, it seems Jemma doesn't dislike him as he thinks she does, since she said in the diary room, Aaron has been quiet but she thinks he's just shy.

If he keeps away from Jay,he will need to do that for his sanity really,trust him and Anton with nothing, also if he can hold the friendship of Harry and Alex, I think now Faye may be his saving grace.I hope I am right in thinking that but they do seem really genuine together now, even more so since her Sister came in.

I would like to see all work out for them anyway.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by bobnot

He is also one of the least favourites on ds polls

8.8%? Not really

[Angus]

Originally Posted by bobnot

He is also one of the least favourites on ds polls

Clutching at straws aren't we? I note Jay has over 40% as least favourite on DS compared to just 8.80% for Aaron. Furthermore, it's vote to save this year so the haters will have more trouble getting him out, especially in a 3 or 4 way vote where Jay, Anton and/or Aden were in the mix

[billy123]

Originally Posted by MTVN

8.8%? Not really

really? 3rd least favourite in the ds polls is one of the least favourites isnt it?

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by bobnot

really? 3rd least favourite in the polls is one of the least favourites isnt it?

Technically I guess so, but it's still quite a small share of the vote and given that he is leading the favourite housemate poll and I wouldn't say it's a signifier that he's hated everywhere away from TiBB

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Ammi

It was interesting when Jay referred to Aaron's popularity because of the crowd cheers when he was up...seems to me a lot of the housemates started resenting Aaron from that time..it's like Jay's struggling to keep that resentment under control..

Jay also said he wished he was up (what a liar) - I hope Aaron and co will grant his wish this week.

I believe a lot has been hidden from the public about Jay's behaviour in the house. Right from the start with the ridiculous wolfpack gang Jay has tried to control the other hms and appointed himself Head of House. Unfortunately for him Aaron and Harry just won't give the guy the respect he thinks is his due, and I think the shopping task rebellion was a way for them to put Jay firmly in his place Harry said last night that if they gave Jay enough rope he'd hang himself and it seems to be working.

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on

No the conclusion to this thread is that Aaron is his own man...he is of an age when he doesnt feel the need to make small talk to people he despises.
So what if he is in the BB house!! So what if other people around him might find the atmosphere bad... Aaron does not NEED them...his friends are the ones he respects.
He is not being two faced and he is not acting....he is being true to himself and thats what I admire.

Many of you talk about Aarons immaturity 'for sulking'...he is not sulking just because he doesnt talk to people he does not like. There are a few immature people in there and Aaron is not one of them.
Jay is not only immature...everything about him is course and vile!!!

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by angus58

Jay also said he wished he was up (what a liar) - I hope Aaron and co will grant his wish this week.

I believe a lot has been hidden from the public about Jay's behaviour in the house. Right from the start with the ridiculous wolfpack gang Jay has tried to control the other hms and appointed himself Head of House. Unfortunately for him Aaron and Harry just won't give the guy the respect he thinks is his due, and I think the shopping task rebellion was a way for them to put Jay firmly in his place Harry said last night that if they gave Jay enough rope he'd hang himself and it seems to be working.

You may not of seen it but Aaron showed last night that he is not averse to a bit of controlling other Hm's himself.

Firstly misleading Harry as to what Jay had said to him, then actively encouraging Faye to smoke after her sister was clearly against it.

Trouble for Aaron now as we saw toward the end of Hl's last night Aaron will be hanging onto Faye like a noose around her neck, and i think will become a wedge between Gem & Faye.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

You may not of seen it but Aaron showed last night that he is not averse to a bit of controlling other Hm's himself.

Firstly misleading Harry as to what Jay had said to him, then actively encouraging Faye to smoke after her sister was clearly against it.

Trouble for Aaron now as we saw toward the end of Hl's last night Aaron will be hanging onto Faye like a noose around her neck, and i think will become a wedge between Gem & Faye.

I sometimes wonder if we are all watching the same show. I watched the HLs last night and I didn't hear Aaron misleading Harry about the convo (in fact I've just watched that clip again to make sure) - but I did hear Jay doing that with Aden. As for the smoking thing, last time I looked Faye was a fully grown woman with a mind of her own, who is not answerable to any one, and that includes her sister.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by angus58

I sometimes wonder if we are all watching the same show. I watched the HLs last night and I didn't hear Aaron misleading Harry about the convo (in fact I've just watched that clip again to make sure) - but I did hear Jay doing that with Aden. As for the smoking thing, last time I looked Faye was a fully grown woman with a mind of her own, who is not answerable to any one, and that includes her sister.

Jay & Aaron
Aaron - I know who are having conversations behind peoples backs in here
(later)
Jay - you've got me thinking about who is being sly

Aaron & Harry
Aaron - I told him i'm not going to pretend i like you for fear of nomination's
Harry - What did he say to that
Aaron - He didn't really say anything, and then he goes arr so that means your telling me people are being sly.

I think that would make Jay sound like a total...... in the eyes of Harry and regardless it is misleading.

As for Jay misleading Aden. Well he condensed a 5 or 6 point discussion into 2, because that's what people do. It sounded accurate to me though but that is a matter of opinion rather than something to be proven.


Hopefully that clears up the rubbish that is being spoken about Aaron being trustworthy


And yes Faye can do what she likes, but i find it weird that he would encourage her to smoke.

[rk3388]

Originally Posted by angus58

What programme are you watching fgs? - he did tell him.

No he did not. he told aden, he told harry, he told tom, he told faye, but he defiantly didnt tell jay

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by angus58

I sometimes wonder if we are all watching the same show. I watched the HLs last night and I didn't hear Aaron misleading Harry about the convo (in fact I've just watched that clip again to make sure) - but I did hear Jay doing that with Aden. As for the smoking thing, last time I looked Faye was a fully grown woman with a mind of her own, who is not answerable to any one, and that includes her sister.

You are right, the only one not telling the conversations as they were in the main was Jay to Aden. However that may be in part to the editing.We don't know unfortunately if Jay said all Aaron said to him so we can only go from what was actually shown.

I doubt Harry needs any convincing that Jay is a total waste of space, Harry knows Jay lied through his teeth and would have continued to do so had Harry dropped the bath issue which would have meant other housemates under suspicion all the time too.
Harry also did after all tell Aden he was Jays ...., (unpleasant something).

As for Faye, I am coming round to the belief Faye really likes Aaron now,I don't think Jemma has a problem with Aaron either,she said in the diary room, he had been quiet but she thinks he is shy, that doesn't sound like someone who will set out to make bother for him.

As you say Angus, sometimes you are left wondering if people are watching the same thing you are, I watched this 3 times,(maybe the editing is the problem) but the only person not relaying conversations as they were was Jay.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are right, the only one not telling the conversations as they were in the main was Jay to Aden. However that may be in part to the editing.We don't know unfortunately if Jay said all Aaron said to him so we can only go from what was actually shown.

I doubt Harry needs any convincing that Jay is a total waste of space, Harry knows Jay lied through his teeth and would have continued to do so had Harry dropped the bath issue which would have meant other housemates under suspicion all the time too.
Harry also did after all tell Aden he was Jays ...., (unpleasant something).

As for Faye, I am coming round to the belief Faye really likes Aaron now,I don't think Jemma has a problem with Aaron either,she said in the diary room, he had been quiet but she thinks he is shy, that doesn't sound like someone who will set out to make bother for him.

As you say Angus, sometimes you are left wondering if people are watching the same thing you are, I watched this 3 times,(maybe the editing is the problem) but the only person not relaying conversations as they were was Jay.

Do you not find my previous post convincing Joey, and can i ask why please?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Do you not find my previous post convincing Joey, and can i ask why please?

I don't think it indicates what you were inferring as to Aaron being untrustworthy convincing at all,so no,sorry. That is not simply my recollection or perception of the events in total so I cannot on this occasion agree with your summary of it.

I consider Jay leaving near all out from a conversation and making it sound like Aaron only said 2 words to him far more misleading and more evident of being untrustworthy.

Aaron actually said anyway, 'he couldn't be bothered with it' at first when Jay asked if there was something he wanted to say to him.
Then all Jay said to Aden was, he(Jay) asked Aaron if there was anything he wanted to say to him,then Jay said all Aaron replied was not really.

Totally wrong relaying of the conversation but it would leave Aden thinking that Jay had asked that, Aaron had said 'not really' then just walked off sayng no more, when in fact a fair bit of conversation passed between them.

As I pointed out maybe the editing could be to blame and we maybe don't get the full context of what was said and relayed. Simple as that.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think it indicates what you were inferring as to Aaron being untrustworthy convincing at all,so no,sorry. That is not simply my recollection or perception of the events in total so I cannot on this occasion agree with your summary of it.

I consider Jay leaving near all out from a conversation and making it sound like Aaron only said 2 words to him far more misleading and more evident of being untrustworthy.

Aaron actually said anyway, 'he couldn't be bothered with it' at first when Jay asked if there was something he wanted to say to him.
Then all Jay said to Aden was, he(Jay) asked Aaron if there was anything he wanted to say to him,then Jay said all Aaron replied was not really.

Totally wrong relaying of the conversation but it would leave Aden thinking that Jay had asked that, Aaron had said 'not really' then just walked off sayng no more, when in fact a fair bit of conversation passed between them.

As I pointed out maybe the editing could be to blame and we maybe don't get the full context of what was said and relayed. Simple as that.

Fair Enough. It is amazing to me though that even when faced with such convincing evidence you are able to dismiss it. If you are also saying Aaron may not of said that, you would realize he did on a re-watch.

But i am inclined to except what your saying about the Jay Convo. I think he was paraphrasing as we all do, and you take a view as to whether the things that are dropped are crucial to the relayed message being accurate. I think he did an adequate job, but i can see how someone else could think differently.

[Gizmo]

I used to like Aaron and he was my fav but he's gone right down in my estimation.

The way he behaved when Jem came in was pathetic. He could hardly bring himself to get up off the sofa to meet her. He says he shy but he could have made more of an effort - it appeared rude and he must know that at his age.

Then he told Faye he would get Jem smoking by the end of the week just because Faye was seeking Jem's approval about her smoking. Jem doesn't want to see her sister harm herself but Aaron couldn't respect that.

And I'm getting irritated watching Aaron's withdrawn behaviour, must be hell for the HMs to live with. He's not good at burying the hatchet after a row and seems to go into this prolongued state of passive anger. For the sake of getting on with other HMs he should learn to snap out of it like the others do.