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Old 17-10-2011, 05:52 AM #76
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I think he has had sex but not with his wife in seven years.

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He might just be asexual, have you even considered that? Not everyone likes sex y'know
Or he might not treat sex lightly. I can understand him. He doesn't have sex just for the sake of it.
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perhaps he is mature enough not to spout about his sex life

Not ALL of us feel the need to tell the world, so most likely he deflected the question with a tongue in cheek comment which it appears is lost on some of those working in the Mental Health Care Area

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I don't think he has mental health issues, something has affected him that makes him have barriers up after his child was born likely. that's really the only issue he may have with himself but it's not being mentally ill in any way.

I don't think also that he hates women,on the contrary,he clearly shows repect to them and men too but he has a stricter code personally as to how he thinks others should act.

I do think he likely craves a new relatioship with someone but the barriers he has built up over the last few years have him not feeling secure that a relatioship would be a success for him now. Explaining in part his role in this on/off situation with Faye.( who does mess with his head at times).

Not mentally ill, a few personal things to get rid of as to letting the barriers down that's all.
From what they've observed one of my sister in laws who is a Psychiatrist has said she has seen nothing from him that indicates any mental health problems,she would like to talk to him though but not professionally.(I think she rather likes him).
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Interesting that these psychologists on here are assuring us that he has mental health problems and shows all the signs of it but we are yet to hear what these signs actually are. I'd like to know what the symptoms are of these problems that Aaron supposedly has and where he has displayed them?
Equally, it's interesting that the NON psychologists on here are debating on a highly specialised subject, in which they have neither trained in or practised. Some may have experience, either personally or with family members/friends -but the non psychologists on here are as similarly assured that he does not have mental health 'problems' (to use your own word)

For all we know, he, some or all, of the housemates could have underlying MH issues or not, be on medications for that matter or not.

I personally would say that Aaron does have issues - not least with anxiety and social anxiety, I'd say that Jay has anger management issues for example, and Harry being the most healthily balanced.

That said, trained or not, practising or not: not one of us here now enough about the personal lives of any of the housemates to be able to be 'arguing' over this point or make any assessment based on a highly edited, highly manipulated show. Especially with someone such as Aaron -who we really know not a great deal about on a personal level - other than the fact that his marriage breaking up has affected him as did watching a natural childbirth.

That's my tuppeniesworth anyway.

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He is an unusual type but I don't think there is anything wrong with not having sex for seven years.
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You could be right.The gay thing is what Tom saw in him originally.
That was just wishful thinking on Tom's part

There are plenty of people who go through a period of celebacy for various personal reasons. It is a lifestyle choice ..it doesn't mean you have mental issues ..nor does it mean you are a closet gay. Its not improbable, just highly unlikely that Aarons so called issues are due to sexuality hang-ups. It was fairly clear that he was badly affected by his ex-wifes disability, the cause of which is unknown to us. I would also be interested to hear what the so called mental health professionals on here have to add further....as, with all due respect, stating that someone is a closetted gay , simply based on his uptightness...is rather text book.
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Aaron has a serious mental problem.I think he is what they call a woman hater.
He leads them on only to demean them.
What a great start to the day,a good laugh
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I think he has mental problems, yes. I'm in a position to comment on that, as mental health is my profession.
No doubt you have a qualification in psychology? I do, and I am also a member of BPS and have been since 1992. I have also worked at Maudsley Hospital in London and for the Croydon Mental Health Team. I have not seen any "mental problems" being exhibited by Aaron, although I have definitely seen signs of such in other HMs, but it is not an accusation I would ever seriously throw at anyone without proper investigation and possession of ALL the facts.
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Perhaps Aaron is on a wind up, and is not joining in the "I banged 49 wimmin in the last 48 hours" tales like the Wolfpack, perhaps he feels it is his own personal business when he last had sex. I doubt its been 7 years though...Maisy and Faye in less than a week...LMFAO

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Perhaps Aaron is on a wind up, and is not joining in the "I banged 49 wimmin in the last 48 hours" tales like the Wolfpack, perhaps he feels it is his own personal business when he last had sex. I doubt its been 7 years though...Maisy and Faye in less than a week...LMFAO
I agree. This is what I think, but you'll never convince those determined to find any fault with him

Irrespective of whether it is true or not, it's extremely ignorant and offensive to label someone mentally ill because they do not conform to one's own subjective norms.

You know what they say - "walk a mile in my shoes before you judge me".
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Equally, it's interesting that the NON psychologists on here are debating on a highly specialised subject, in which they have neither trained in or practised. Some may have experience, either personally or with family members/friends -but the non psychologists on here are as similarly assured that he does not have mental health 'problems' (to use your own word)

For all we know, he, some or all, of the housemates could have underlying MH issues or not, be on medications for that matter or not.

I personally would say that Aaron does have issues - not least with anxiety and social anxiety, I'd say that Jay has anger management issues for example, and Harry being the most healthily balanced.
It's equally interesting that you brought to our attention that non psychologists are commenting on this highly specialized subject, whilst u did exactly the same thing, not only with Aaron, but also Harry and Jay!

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That said, trained or not, practising or not: not one of us here now enough about the personal lives of any of the housemates to be able to be 'arguing' over this point or make any assessment based on a highly edited, highly manipulated show. Especially with someone such as Aaron -who we really know not a great deal about on a personal level - other than the fact that his marriage breaking up has affected him as did watching a natural childbirth.
Maybe a fair point, but u completely contradicted it because you've already made an assessment. So, you're allowed to make an assessment, but you're not recommending, or don't believe others should?

What really kicked off this debate was, JET a reputed trained and working psychologist made an assessment that Aaron has "mental problems", and also concluded that he was gay. Because he said he hasn't had sex for 7 years. I don't see what the problem is with people questioning this logic, and trying to understand this rationale.

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No doubt you have a qualification in psychology? I do, and I am also a member of BPS and have been since 1992. I have also worked at Maudsley Hospital in London and for the Croydon Mental Health Team. I have not seen any "mental problems" being exhibited by Aaron, although I have definitely seen signs of such in other HMs, but it is not an accusation I would ever seriously throw at anyone without proper investigation and possession of ALL the facts.
Thanks for your response, Angus. That is an answer which is justifiable for anyone claiming to be a professional...especially the latter part. As a Barrister, I tend to steer clear of any legal disputes as nobody can assess nor accurately comment at great length without all pertinent facts.
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Aaron has a serious mental problem.I think he is what they call a woman hater.
He leads them on only to demean them.
Aaron really has gone over some peoples heads
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I think he has mental problems, yes. I'm in a position to comment on that, as mental health is my profession.
You must be some consummate professional to be able to diagnose someone from watching edited highlights of them on TV for an hour a day.
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I don't think that anyone studying mental health issues would be taught to make an assumption from a show that's well known for it's edits like BB.

I also find it difficult to believe that someone could assess a housemate's mental health from what would no more than 30 minute highlights of a full day in the BB house.


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Aaron has a serious mental problem.I think he is what they call a woman hater.
He leads them on only to demean them.
Coming from someone who was adamant that the freezer incident was a work of fiction and from the mind of an Aaron fan to stir up trouble, despite knowing that some housemates confirmed this, I struggle to take anything you say seriously.
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Not lying as such just banter..
This ^

I doubt he was being serious, it's none of their business when he last had sex. I know I wouldn't fancy discussing my sex life on national TV. And even if it was, so what?
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I can't stop laughing at this thread that it even warrants a thread, as I can't see what it has to do with anything, and Aaron was so obviously having a laugh, same as when he said to Maisie, I wish we had had sex now, and she found that funny also But I suppose if some don't get Aaron and his dry humour, then they don't and never will

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So........because Aaron said he hasn't had sex in 7 years, he is now a gay, asexual women hater with serious mental issues? Jeezo.

I personally think he was having a laugh tbh.
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I can't stop laughing at this thread that it even warrants a thread, as I can't see what it has to do with anything, and Aaron was so obviously having a laugh, same as when he said to Maisie, I wish we had had sex now, and she found that funny also But I suppose if some don't get Aaron and his dry humour, then they don't and never will
Well, u might find it funny...but i just object to some of the poster's attitudes and assumptions on this thread. And the dismissal that someone might not have sex for 7 years, whether true or false. I'm male, and i'd freely admit i went a few years without having sex. It doesn't make me asexual or gay. The problem with stupid male ego and peer pressure, is you're not sposed to mention that because you become a laughing stock! You're sposed to play the Jay macho card and wax lyrical about your thousands of imaginary conquests!!
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Well, u might find it funny...but i just object to some of the poster's attitudes and assumptions on this thread. And the dismissal that someone might not have sex for 7 years, whether true or false. I'm male, and i'd freely admit i went a few years without having sex. It doesn't make me asexual or gay. The problem with stupid male ego and peer pressure, is you're not sposed to mention that because you become a laughing stock! You're sposed to play the Jay macho card and wax lyrical about your thousands of imaginary conquests!!
I am not laughing at any assumptions made on anything else, read my post again and you will see that what I said I found funny was relating to the title and what the title of the thread refers to. Not any extra assumptions any want to make about Aaron.
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Wel I once knew a guy whose uncle's, brother's, cousin wallked a dog for a guy whose best friend knew someone who works in mental health and he thinks your talking out your ass. .................

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That's kinda neither here nor there really, that's just your opinion. How would it be if it's actually true, and he hasn't had sex for seven years. Basically it'd mean he's likely one of the more honest HM's. Particularly as it's often male ego which rules honesty when talking about sexual conquests!

So, how would his honesty adversely effect his HM's. Regardless of what you've said about his relationship with Faye, and his other HM's, the primary topic you supported with your original post was the notion that - it's inconceivable he hasn't had sex for seven years, thus has mental problems, or that he has mental problems because he's lying.

If it turns out true, you've shot yourself in the foot!
No - one, including myself, can accurately diagnose mental health problems without actually spending time with the person in question. I thought that would be understood. Giving opinions on what I see on my TV screen based on my own experiences is no different from a layman giving an opinion based on their experiences. Because I have knowledge and experience of a certain subject means I base what I see and hear on that - someone else may base their opinion from an entirely different angle.
From the very little I know about Aaron, I think he may be a closeted gay, so this influences my assessment of him. I don't think all of his issues are a result of that. Not having had sex for 7 years is not as of itself a symptom of mental health problems. Absolutely not. You have to look at the whole picture (limited though that is in this instance) and patterns of behaviour and form an opinion based on those - and that is what it is - just my opinion given on a MB where I come to for a little light hearted enjoyment. Just like everyone else.
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No - one, including myself, can accurately diagnose mental health problems without actually spending time with the person in question. I thought that would be understood. Giving opinions on what I see on my TV screen based on my own experiences is no different from a layman giving an opinion based on their experiences. Because I have knowledge and experience of a certain subject means I base what I see and hear on that - someone else may base their opinion from an entirely different angle.
From the very little I know about Aaron, I think he may be a closeted gay, so this influences my assessment of him. I don't think all of his issues are a result of that. Not having had sex for 7 years is not as of itself a symptom of mental health problems. Absolutely not. You have to look at the whole picture (limited though that is in this instance) and patterns of behaviour and form an opinion based on those - and that is what it is - just my opinion given on a MB where I come to for a little light hearted enjoyment. Just like everyone else.
I feel It is extremely unprofessional to use one's so called expertise to label someone as a closet gay just because he flippantly said he had not had sex for 7 years, especially since his actions in the house appear contradictory. In fact in MY professional opinion I have seen absolutey nothing to suggest he is closet gay and can only assume that this accusation is based on stereotypical views of what gay men are like, ie it has been mentioned more than once that Aaron has slightly camp mannerisms. "Camp" is synonymous in some peoples' minds with effeminate, prissy, over sensitive etc.

To further compound that by suggesting he has mental health issues leads me to conclude that there is a belief by some on this forum that homosexuality is considered to be a mental ailment? If that is the case, it is an astoundingly sweeping and ignorant generalisation to make.
Furthermore, you cannot possibly form such a diagnosis from such a short, brutally edited version of events.

I, too, come on this forum for light hearted enjoyment, but I cannot let such offensive and bigoted views go without comment and if someone is going to come on here and play the "professional" card, then they need to back it up with proper clinical evaluation and evidence which, of course, is not possible.
Instead we are all of us left with the judgments we make about others based on what facts we are given, and the interesting point in all of this is the very different perspectives people have about others' behaviours, which are naturally based on one's own personal life experiences, values etc. That is the fascination of BB for me, watching the interactions between very different people and making value judgments based on those interactions, as to whom we like or dislike.
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