[Mystic Mock]

Admittedly he was terrible last Saturday, but I still think that Abi and Rough Copy are worse than him overall, and his voice isn't as ordinary as Nicholas's voice.

And btw I did like Abi's performance on Saturday so she's gone above the other two for me who are just so boring to watch, and in Rough Copy's case they can't even harmonize very well with each other imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Admittedly he was terrible last Saturday, but I still think that Abi and Rough Copy are worse than him overall, and his voice isn't as ordinary as Nicholas's voice.

And btw I did like Abi's performance on Saturday so she's gone above the other two for me who are just so boring to watch, and in Rough Copy's case they can't even harmonize very well with each other imo.

[GiRTh]

A bit off topic but my observations from having not watched the show but picking up on what you guys are saying.

We have Sam C who cant sing, Nicolas who has no stage presence, Abi who does the same thing every week, Hannah who is talented but not likeable, Sam B who is 36 so Simon definitely doesn't want her to win and Rough copy but Simon already has 1D and Union J so he doesn't want another group. So we are left with Tamera and Luke but Tamera has been in the bottom two so is unlikely to win.

So Luke to win then!!!!!

Am I about right? Have I missed anyone out?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

A bit off topic but my observations from having not watched the show but picking up on what you guys are saying.

We have Sam C who cant sing, Nicolas who has no stage presence, Abi who does the same thing every week, Hannah who is talented but not likeable, Sam B who is 36 so Simon definitely doesn't want her to win and Rough copy but Simon already has 1D and Union J so he doesn't want another group. So we are left with Tamera and Luke but Tamera has been in the bottom two so is unlikely to win.

So Luke to win then!!!!!

Am I about right? Have I missed anyone out?

I want Luke in the final. For me he's the only one who has the whole package. Sam B is brilliant, but she doesn't wow me.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

A bit off topic but my observations from having not watched the show but picking up on what you guys are saying.

We have Sam C who cant sing, Nicolas who has no stage presence, Abi who does the same thing every week, Hannah who is talented but not likeable, Sam B who is 36 so Simon definitely doesn't want her to win and Rough copy but Simon already has 1D and Union J so he doesn't want another group. So we are left with Tamera and Luke but Tamera has been in the bottom two so is unlikely to win.

So Luke to win then!!!!!

Am I about right? Have I missed anyone out?

3 black guys though, edgier than JLS, I think they could do okay, they need to tone down the "we smashed it" comments, and be a bit more humble.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

3 black guys though, edgier than JLS, I think they could do okay, they need to tone down the "we smashed it" comments, and be a bit more humble.

I love Rough Copy, but they're getting a bit cocky lately. That could cost them their place on the show.

[Brother Leon]

They've always been "cocky"..it's what makes them. Better than l this shy fake humble rubbish so many contestants conjure up to pick up votes.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

They've always been "cocky"..it's what makes them. Better than l this shy fake humble rubbish so many contestants conjure up to pick up votes.

I know, but it's a bit over the top now. I don't like it and i say it as a massive fan.

[GiRTh]

Are they any good? No point being cocky if they're garbage.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Are they any good? No point being cocky if they're garbage.

Yes, they're very good.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Are they any good? No point being cocky if they're garbage.

they're alright, they're not that good

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

they're alright, they're not that good

They need to tone it down a bit. Their behaviour on the Xtra Factor was way over the top. They're starting to believe their own hype.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They need to tone it down a bit. Their behaviour on the Xtra Factor was way over the top. They're starting to believe their own hype.

Oh I don't bother with Xtra Factor, one show is enough

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh I don't bother with Xtra Factor, one show is enough

Same here.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh I don't bother with Xtra Factor, one show is enough

You can see on the main show as well that they're very cocky and arrogant.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Are they any good? No point being cocky if they're garbage.

They're completely average.

[GiRTh]

SO Tamera , Luke and either Rough Copy or Sam B for the final.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

SO Tamera , Luke and either Rough Copy or Sam B for the final.

I hope so, with Luke winning!

[MeMyselfAndI]

Rough Copy are much worse, they dont even always sing live, they have to record their high notes and use it as the backing track.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Rough Copy are much worse, they dont even always sing live, they have to record their high notes and use it as the backing track.

I noticed that. I'm surprised no one has picked them up on it.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Rough Copy are much worse, they dont even always sing live, they have to record their high notes and use it as the backing track.

I despair. Never mind - without those with poor taste, it would be more difficult to identify those with better.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I'm wondering because he comes across like a nice guy to me, and while his not the best singer in the world there is far worse in there imo.

But I want to know why people have issues with him?

Yes there are far worse - but thankfully they are not trying to sell themselves as singers and future pop stars.

He simply is not good enough to be in the competition and to send home a brilliant singer like Paul to keep such a mediocre singer like Sam C in is a crime against music and good taste and proof positive, if that was ever needed, that Louis Walsh is a greedy money-hungry man with no real interest in music - only the thought of lining his alreay pretty deep pockets. Will never take his opinion seriously again.

[joeysteele]

I would be happy to be considered a sort of supporter of Sam C and I am a 21 year old male.
I don't think he is in any way as bad as some make him out to be.

All I have seen,(and the things I likely most about him), is his attitude to the show,admitting he is not the best singer there, also the way he accepts and takes the criticism,much of it grossly unfair from Gary particularly.
The man who put Frankie Cocoza into the 'live' finals and said it wasn't just about a voice.

In my view, Sam Callahan puts good effort into his performances and clearly works hard, you don't always have to be a really good singer in order to achieve success, the charts are full of people who sound good on record but are not in any way really good singers.

Sam Callahan is not going to win the X Factor,he is however one of the last 8 acts still remaining and his performances have been and are better than some of the others still there too.
I have a feeling he can get success and his voice is for sure in my opinion nowhere near as bad as is being made out.
I like him,I'd go and see him and would also likely buy his CD's too, I actually really liked his performance of 'All I want Is You', the 'U2' song he did.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I would be happy to be considered a sort of supporter of Sam C and I am a 21 year old male.
I don't think he is in any way as bad as some make him out to be.

All I have seen,(and the things I likely most about him), is his attitude to the show,admitting he is not the best singer there, also the way he accepts and takes the criticism,much of it grossly unfair from Gary particularly.
The man who put Frankie Cocoza into the 'live' finals and said it wasn't just about a voice.

In my view, Sam Callahan puts good effort into his performances and clearly works hard, you don't always have to be a really good singer in order to achieve success, the charts are full of people who sound good on record but are not in any way really good singers.

Sam Callahan is not going to win the X Factor,he is however one of the last 8 acts still remaining and his performances have been and are better than some of the others still there too.
I have a feeling he can get success and his voice is for sure in my opinion nowhere near as bad as is being made out.
I like him,I'd go and see him and would also likely buy his CD's too, I actually really liked his performance of 'All I want Is You', the 'U2' song he did.

His 'performances' have been just that 'performances' - based on jumping about the stage and appealling to gullible teenage girls. He and Louis know how to sell him to that particular fan base. They have nothing to do with talent and the ability to sing.

TV is full of tacky 'entertainment' shows giving attention seekers and wannabees the chance to sell themselves, but what many want to see is a genuine talent show where people with genuine talent have a chance to achieve their dreams and give the rest of us the chance to appreciate their talent - but unfortunately the ever increasing greed of the likes of Cowel and Walsh are denying us that.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

His 'performances' have been just that 'performances' - based on jumping about the stage and appealling to gullible teenage girls. He and Louis know how to sell him to that particular fan base. They have nothing to do with talent and the ability to sing.

TV is full of tacky 'entertainment' shows giving attention seekers and wannabees the chance to sell themselves, but what many want to see is a genuine talent show where people with genuine talent have a chance to achieve their dreams and give the rest of us the chance to appreciate their talent - but unfortunately the ever increasing greed of the likes of Cowel and Walsh are denying us that.

I've seen others just jumping about too.
In fact for 2 of the previous 3 weeks and therefore half the shows so far,Sam C has done none of what you say above,he actually sang pretty good 2 ballads with no jumping about just singing the song and in fact in my view,singing them rather well too.