[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Wasn't Fred West regarded as a doting father way back when before he was uncovered. mmmmmm

Wow, you lot really are clutching at straws now

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

When they say he is a bad father based solely for his actions in the house then yes, that makes the point invalid as that has no reflection on what he is like with his kid.

All my points were of his outside behaviour

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

so being in a rented home doesn't make you a good father?
ahh you read it on the internet must be true silly me

Excuse me but where in my post do I state that he isn't a good father. You are letting your prejudices ruin your pattern of thought. I merely stated he was bi polar and such an ailment isn't regarded as a stable footing for adoption in our country, please show me where I made reference to his parenting skills please.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Wow, you lot really are clutching at straws now

Pot kettle with the Perez being bullied BS

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by adamski94

So we are wrong and your right yet you dont know anything about him so how can everyone say he is a great father

The thing is, none of us said he is a great father. But it is you lot stating he is a bad father. None of us know what he is like with his kid, this is our point, you have no idea what he is like but basing it on his actions on the CBB house is ridiculous.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Pot kettle with the Perez being bullied BS

I never said Perez is being bullied

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

The thing is, none of us said he is a great father. But it is you lot stating he is a bad father. None of us know what he is like with his kid, this is our point, you have no idea what he is like but basing it on his actions on the CBB house is ridiculous.

I said he is a bad role model

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Wow, you lot really are clutching at straws now

Everyone else is, that's what makes it so sad. way too many bar room doctors and lawyers on here. Facts in evidence is clear, he makes a living from acting like a dipstick and has mental issues so is up to the authorities in his area to determine if he is a fit parent, not us. But based on what we see, opinions are rife in favour of the op's post.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I never said Perez is being bullied

Im not talking about you in general at the end of the day whether you like it or not everyone has a right to a opinion and they can never be wrong

[Vanessa]

I've seen pictures of Perez with his son and it's heart warming.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Excuse me but where in my post do I state that he isn't a good father. You are letting your prejudices ruin your pattern of thought. I merely stated he was bi polar and such an ailment isn't regarded as a stable footing for adoption in our country, please show me where I made reference to his parenting skills please.

Please don't tell me how to think you post it I reply (that's how it works) be rude of me not to reply.. you merely stated things we HAVE NOT SEEN in the house nor have you posted evidence that proves otherwise..you compared him to Fred West it's like wow!!!

I know you dislike him (and that is your choice) your choice of words tells me more..

..wanders off to clean oven...

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I said he is a bad role model

That was not just directed at you by the way, it was more those saying he was a bad father. None of us know what he is like as a dad, and I don't know why his parenthood is being questioned. It has no reflection on him in CBB.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by sampvt

If you google him it states there that his child is being reared by his mother in THEIR RENTED HOME, hardly the trsaits of a millionaire and smaks more of the child being used as a fashion accessory. Naturally he isn't as cookie in the home as he is in the house but what concerns me is that he feels the need to act like this just to get noticed and that smacks of a less than stable mind.

Personally I agree with many that say he is bipolar and in our world over here, nobody diagnosed of being bipolar would be allowed to adopt, but in the states babies can be bought and sold very easily.

You actually can adopt if you are biplolar...you have be being treated by a doctor but as bipolar is a very manageable condition is does not preclude you from adopting on its own. Each potential adopter is judged by social workers on lots of factors, medical, emotional, financial, family history, age etc etc etc....

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I was raised in poverty and my parents were very loving. money has nothing to do with being fit to be a dad.

but yet you judged him by little one being raised in a rented home? I don't get that ...

far as I'm aware babies kids teens of HMs are not targets for our assassination!

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I was raised in poverty and my parents were very loving. money has nothing to do with being fit to be a dad.

I bet Perez kids have a great quality of life. HE has all the resources to provide wonderfully for his kid. No one has the right to bring them into this appearance on a TV show.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

YEs. If you insist on bringing his family into this and judge his parenting skill by that then you all need to take a look at how you bring up your own kids,

You do realise personal attacks on forum members is not allowed

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

but yet you judged him by little one being raised in a rented home? I don't get that ...

far as I'm aware babies kids teens of HMs are not targets for our assassination!

Sue if you are going to slag off fellow posters, please at least read their posts. Where did I say that rented property was in some way wrong. I didn't so please don't try to dis me with your own twisted facts, that's neither clever nor worth a read.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Sue if you are going to slag off fellow posters, please at least read their posts. Where did I say that rented property was in some way wrong. I didn't so please don't try to dis me with your own twisted facts, that's neither clever nor worth a read.

I haven't slagged anyone off!

I simply responded to this post of yours
Originally Posted by sampvt
If you google him it states there that his child is being reared by his mother in THEIR RENTED HOME, hardly the trsaits of a millionaire and smaks more of the child being used as a fashion accessory. Naturally he isn't as cookie in the home as he is in the house but what concerns me is that he feels the need to act like this just to get noticed and that smacks of a less than stable mind.

Personally I agree with many that say he is bipolar and in our world over here, nobody diagnosed of being bipolar would be allowed to adopt, but in the states babies can be bought and sold very easily.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Dollface

You say that as if i have. Feel free to look back through the thread.
You just judged other forum members parenting skills, which quite frankly is laughable! I think people would have more of an idea of someones parenting skills after seeing them on a TV show than someone who's anonymously typing on a computer.

Nobody who watches the show has an understanding of Perez as a father, as we have not seen that side to him.

[MTVN]

Ok lets stop the talk about other members in here

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

And I wll take my punishment without comment. You all look at yourselves before you judge others and the quality of your lives before you make comments about a contestant on reality shows parenting skills

How do you know everyone here hasn't already looked at the quality of their own life before posting?
Maybe.. just maybe.. we all have good quality lives, that for some reason you seem to be trying to say otherwise AS IF you know us.
We're talking about a guy that's put himself on TV, so you're the one stooping low by getting personal about forum members.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Ok lets stop the talk about other members in here

Why not stop the talk about BB HM;s children first.

[AnnieK]

The low stooping to begin with is people bringing someone's child up.....leave the child out of it. There is enough to talk about Perez without bringing his innocent child into it

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Why not stop the talk about BB HM;s children

Omg some people are so stupid.
THIS IS A FORUM ABOUT BB of course we're allowed to discuss the housemates lives (and some of their lives include children)

[Denver]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The low stooping to begin with is people bringing someone's child up.....leave the child out of it. There is enough to talk about Perez without bringing his innocent child into it

Yet since Katie P entered ive seen numerous posts of her being a terrible mum so why is that allowed but this isnt