[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Why are Asian actors so unrepresented? There are even less of them in lead roles...

Why are you asking me that like you're proving some sort of a point, you're right, white actors are dominating the film industry.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Livia

The vast majority of those white heads are attached to Jewish bodies. All I think they're concerned with is the bottom line. If a box-office-busting black actor brought in as much cash as a box-office-busting white actor, I'm sure they'd cast them.

Will Smith, for example.

But box office smash isn't what translates to Oscar win. I just don't buy that argument when the majority of Oscar nom's/ wins are for movies and roles that aren't big box office money getters.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why are you asking me that like you're proving some sort of a point, you're right, white actors are dominating the film industry.

Don't you take that tone with me, young lady...

(please don't go Bold Niamh on me...)

Originally Posted by Mokka

But box office smash isn't what translates to Oscar win. I just don't buy that argument when the majority of Oscar nom's/ wins are for movies and roles that aren't big box office money getters.

I don't know what the ratio is of black actors in lead roles in minor films.

Fifty years ago black people weren't allowed to sit in the same part of the bus as white people. Things are changing... society is changing. We just believe it's happening really slowly.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Don't you take that tone with me, young lady...

(please don't go Bold Niamh on me...)



I don't know what the ratio is of black actors in lead roles in minor films.

Fifty years ago black people weren't allowed to sit in the same part of the bus as white people. Things are changing... society is changing. We just believe it's happening really slowly.

Star Wars though ......

**not really a spoiler but better spoiler it anyway**

Spoiler:

Black lead male and female Jedi

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Star Wars though ......

**not really a spoiler but better spoiler it anyway**

Spoiler:

Black lead male and female Jedi

Yeah! Excellent example.

I think this will evolve naturally you know. I don't think boycotting things gets the right message across and neither to I think Spike Lee is a reliable mouthpiece for black people because he is, in my opinion, racist.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah! Excellent example.

I think this will evolve naturally you know. I don't think boycotting things gets the right message across and neither to I think Spike Lee is a reliable mouthpiece for black people because he is, in my opinion, racist.

Yeah Spike Lee does come across that way a bit. People like the actors mentioned in this thread would be better spokes people imo, I wonder where Will Smiths stands in all of this since his wife is boycotting the Oscars too

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So a question to the film buffs which black actors were overlooked and deserved a nomination and for which movie?

Beasts of No Nation was catching a lot of Oscar Heat for quite a while and Idris Elba was looking to be a shoe in for a nod and the actor who played Agu was tipped for a while too. Will Smith was tipped for Concussion and Micheal B Jordan picked up some momentum for Creed. There was a film called Tangerine which had a black transgender actress who was a contender for the actress category.

[Tom4784]

He's not black but Benicio Del Toro was also highly tipped to pick up a nod this year.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah Spike Lee does come across that way a bit. People like the actors mentioned in this thread would be better spokes people imo, I wonder where Will Smiths stands in all of this since his wife is boycotting the Oscars too

Yeah, I'd be more interested in hearing from Jada Pinkett-Smith than Spike Lee. And Will Smith has got to be one of the biggest box-office draws of any actor, black or white... so he would make an ideal spokesperson.

[the truth]

morgan freeman would be the ideal spokesperson, he has played the president and God so many time and so convincingly, most movie goers think he is the superior being

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

morgan freeman would be the ideal spokesperson, he has played the president and God so many time and so convincingly, most movie goers think he is the superior being

Also, who wouldn't stop to listen to that voice

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Livia

Maybe there were no black actors in roles that deserved an Oscar this year. Do we need some positive discrimination to make sure there's always a black nominee? Are we all for positive discrimination in this way?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

Maybe there were no black actors in roles that deserved an Oscar this year. Do we need some positive discrimination to make sure there's always a black nominee? Are we all for positive discrimination in this way?

Nobody is saying that, people are outraged because there are black actors who deserved nods that have been passed over for no apparent reason for performances that aren't up to scratch (I love Bryan Cranston but Trumbo was sentimental trash).

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Is Christian Slater more respected and recognised than Morgan Freeman by film-goers?

I don't think this argument is about Morgan Freemen, he's a really successful black actor. There are thousands of no-so-successful black actors who, if they want decent parts, should maybe start writing screenplays. A bit like women did.

Black screenwriters. It's what it all comes down to.

They have to write parts for themselves a nobody else will, how is that a solution?

[bots]

Everyone knows that the oscar winner is rarely the one who deserves it. Particularly in the less high profile awards. It's America lovies!

[Johnnyuk123]

I found this poster from 1919 which shows that african americans have been represented as far back as then. I'm sure there is more information out there if i look into it.

[Kizzy]

It's interesting they were better represented then than they are now for sure.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's interesting they were better represented then than they are now for sure.

Except they couldn't sit in a theatre and watch the film with white people then.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Except they couldn't sit in a theatre and watch the film with white people then.

So they should be grateful for small mercies?

[the truth]

of the top 50 richets actors alive, 10 are either black or indian....2 are south American and sacha baron cohen is he Arabian/jewish? several jewish actors there too , Gwyneth paltrow, sandler, Seinfeld, stiller, owen Wilson,downey junior etc
not many disabled people in the list

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So they should be grateful for small mercies?

That's what you took from what I said? Wow...

[Johnnyuk123]

Will Smith's wife Jada Pinkett Smith needs to understand that she was only invited on the plus one anyways because of her famous movie star husband otherwise she would not have even been invited in the first place cos she can't act for toffee.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Beasts of No Nation was catching a lot of Oscar Heat for quite a while and Idris Elba was looking to be a shoe in for a nod and the actor who played Agu was tipped for a while too. Will Smith was tipped for Concussion and Micheal B Jordan picked up some momentum for Creed. There was a film called Tangerine which had a black transgender actress who was a contender for the actress category.

Okay not heard of any of those, As I understand it the selection panel is made up of whites so they need to look at that for starters

[Marsh.]

They can ride public transport and use hospitals. What MORE DO THEY WANT?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's interesting they were better represented then than they are now for sure.

One movie with an all black cast makes that era of film have better representation? erm no.