[Jack_]

You seem to keep misinterpreting what I'm saying

I didn't say the series will die upon his eviction, this cast is far too good. I said his eviction will inevitably start the year-on-year decimation through the tradition of integral characters leaving one after the other, which in turn will eventually ruin the series

It is a gradual process

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You seem to keep misinterpreting what I'm saying

I didn't say the series will die upon his eviction, this cast is far too good. I said his eviction will inevitably start the year-on-year decimation through the tradition of integral characters leaving one after the other, which in turn will eventually ruin the series

It is a gradual process

No I'm not missing anything, I addressed it in the first reply that it's just your prediction it'll collapse without him and entertaining housemates will go one after the other. Until it happens really you're

I do not find him interesting or entertaining in the slightest and I think Georgina, Andy and Emma have more potential.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

No I'm not missing anything, I addressed it in the first reply that it's just your prediction it'll collapse without him and entertaining housemates will go one after the other. Until it happens really you're

I do not find him interesting or entertaining in the slightest and I think Georgina, Andy and Emma have more potential.

a nice but good and honest opinion

[armand.kay]

All the people up are big characters tho Marco is just the only one people don't want to see anymore of. He's given all he can and frankly I'm not impressed.

[Jack_]

Emma and Andy definitely aren't big characters, don't get me wrong they're promising and there's people I'd rather left before them and I actually quite like Andy, but they're nowhere near on the same level character-wise as Marco

I disagree that he's given all he can too, he is clearly infuriating to live with and over the last few days we've seen people begin to display and air that more and more and if he stays it will only get worse, discounting tonight's ep the showmance seems to have died down a bit so I think it would be his irritating personality grating on the housemates that would be the next problem...so why should we grant them their wish?! We aren't living with them

He definitely has more to offer

[armand.kay]

andy is an interesting character and I want to see more of him. I can see him growing to be a big character at one point. He's by no means boring imo and i don't see the point of cutting his journey short when he still has a lot to offer. I don't really care for emma but she isn't really boring she's proven herself to be quite clique and a bit of a drama starter, she's also a tad messy with all her breakdowns. All Marco has is that he is annoying and his showmance and even that seems to of dies down apart from him and Lauren he was pretty much in the background today. imo he's used up all his cards and I have no interest in seeing anymore of him.

[armand.kay]

The cast is strong enough to go on without marco. House dynamics already seem to be constantly changing and it's only been a week I'm sure they'll all adapt without him and we'll see more interesting things.

[armand.kay]

Marco really isn't as big a deal as people are making him out to him he's just an irritating twat he's done his part and now its time for him to go.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by Maria26

prayer circle!

I'm with the majority on the thread he needs to go. Maybe when he does and so stops making everything about him we will get a chance to learn about the other housemates.

[Daniel-X]

Cleanse the house of its disease girls, do it for Georgina!

[Maria26]

Keep voting to evict the twat!

[Maria26]

Every year, there's a bunch of people to tell that the show with collapse if their favorties go....that's never the case!

[armand.kay]

I think the series will die if we keep in people who literally suffocate other people's personalities by insisting they're are the star... What do we end up with when we have people like that on the show for long enough? A series revolving around just one housemate and everyone else just being the supporting character who gets wound up by them then they get evicted. Examples Marc and Helen

[Maria26]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I think the series will die if we keep in people who literally suffocate other people's personalities by insisting they're are the star... What do we end up with when we have people like that on the show for long enough? A series revolving around just one housemate and everyone else just being the supporting character who gets wound up by them then they get evicted. Examples Marc and Helen

Make no mistake, if Marco isn't evicted tonight, I bet you he'll be removed at some point for bad behaviour. Which is gonna get me pissed even more cause that'd mean that someone got evicted for nothing.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I said this in another thread but I'll say it again here.

People like Alex, Jackson etc have no impact on my enjoyment of the show, whereas Marco has a negative impact on my enjoyment on the show. Therefore the logical decision is to evict the one who is making me enjoy the show less, rather than evicting the one who will have no impact on whether I'm enjoying the show or not.

Exactly. Marco at points has made me angry and unwell simultaneously. This is not a good thing, and he must go.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Jack_

lol I'm not reaching in the slightest, I make these same arguments series after series (some of which you've even agreed with in the past) so this shouldn't be news to anybody. I didn't say he was the star of the series because he isn't, but he is one of them and if you think using the voting public as a barometer of who is and who isn't a good housemate is useful, I don't really know what to say tbh

I understand why people hate him as a person, but hateful people make good housemates because they provoke a reaction. Reactions cause discussions and discussions lead to more attention on the show and that can only be a beneficial thing. The only reason this thread exists is because of vote to evict and the awful, illogical voting mentality and patterns it inspires, encouraging people to vote emotively with their hearts rather than their heads

I've already said this cast has plenty of other great housemates so you must have missed that, my point is his eviction will start the yearly BBUK pattern where an integral housemate leaves one after another, and thus eventually the quality of the series will begin to decline. It happens most years and then people complain it's boring and wonder why, I'll be amazed if I'm wrong

As a side note, the 'someone will step up to the plate' argument is always so strange to me...like, why take a gamble on a housemate who may or may not deliver (it doesn't always happen) when there's already one that is? Just seems like an unnecessarily risky move to me

The thing is though, people don't enjoy watching Marco. Why would people want to watch somebody they hate every night? Entertainment is subjective, and clearly, the majority of us think we'd be more entertained by the show if he wasn't there.

[BB-J*I*N*X]

get him OUT!

[Pete.]

People should stop acting that Marco is the only good HM when he's basically the only bad one

[nonstop]

I'm worried for Georgina.

[Pete.]

Honestly I won't be shocked if Georgina goes

[Shaun]

There's nothing to talk about with Marco though. It's all just "ugh", "he's gross", "how trashy". If you have a problem with the series having too many dull characters then that's the fault of the casting - it's perfectly possible for there to be big names evicted first and the series carries on to good things. BB7 lost Sezer, Bonnie, Lisa early on and is still regarded as a classic; BB6 lost Lesley & Maxwell quickly; BB13 lost Chris & Lydia.

I can see why there's cause for concern with this series when there's Alex, Jackson, Sam... but I think all of the others are delivering in some capacity/could offer more. Perhaps not Laura but then who knows

[armand.kay]

BB13 first few elections were literally all big character and it faired well and is probably one the best c5 seasons

[Shaun]

except Victoria who is overrated trash

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Shaun

except Victoria who is overrated trash

She was a big character though in her short stay she brought the drams wether you like her or not she was more relevant than like Caroline who ended up being one of the biggest characters of the series.

[armand.kay]

Bb15 and 16 probably had more tensition and arguments than early c4 seasons but they're still a pickle when you compare the to the likes of bb3 and 2