[arista]

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

..if I were to give the children anything, it would be a British product and supporting British industry...and not a cheap export thing, Arista...which may or may not involve exploitation in the making of.../not a great choice for children especially, my friend...

[arista]

No the 5 Year Fixed Term Election
stays in place
Do not get in a tangle there Joey

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No the 5 Year Fixed Term Election
stays in place
Do not get in a tangle there Joey

That can and you know it can be easily repealed in these circumstances arista.

They cannot hide behind that one,that was only to ensure to the Conservative/LibDem coalition lasted the course of 5 years.

It would take a small amount of time to repeal it.

However, there could be an election without it if the MPs decided to call one, the problem there is the oppositions would need 130 Conservative MPs to vote for one.
As 434 MPs have to support the calling of an election.

No tangle to get into arista for me, just right and what should be done.
No way can this new PM have a mandate or authority to see this massive constitutional change started and seen through, unless they get their own mandate or involve equally all parties in parliament in the full process.

Their mandate was only to hold a referendum, not deal with the consequences.
This is also not a legally binding referendum on the govt arista.

I would dare bet if this was Labour in govt at this time, you would now be screaming for a new election again too,as you did with Brown, with another change of PM while in office.
This would be worse than Brown as this govt is only just over a year into its term.

[arista]

Fixed Term
was set up
No one is standing behind it

Its Legal Tender

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Fixed Term
was set up
No one is standing behind it

Its Legal Tender

How convenient, then never again with respect can or should Gordon Brown be termed as being an unelected PM as you have done so for years.
If this MP can be elected by Conservative MPs, Conservative party members but not have to seek the support of the wider electorate.

I said this last week and do so again,clearly then when it suits as to what party is in govt, 2 wrongs can and do in fact make a right.

I do not like UKIP for instance,however I, and indeed no one, can justifiably deny that UKIP and Farage were very instrumental in this campaign and indeed Farage more likely the one who made the referendum possible.
It is then now ridiculous that now in parliament for the probable full time of this dismantling of 43 years in the EU and the planning of trade deals, that only 1 single UKIP MP, is there to represent his party following this result, with no prospect of him being added to.

That is why another election is needed to get the full new framework of opinion as to this result,and what support there is for all the parties involved in this referendum campaign too,as to the best way forward.
That can only be done through a general election.

The whole temperature and status of the UK is going to change from this,an election at this time of chaos, far from making things worse, would actually more likely clear the air as to all, and get the right representation in parliament that the people want too, after their decision on this referendum.
Another 4 or 5 weeks of an election campaign are not going to make that much difference,in my opinion.

Also,if that even means many Labour seats fall to UKIP, if that means Conservative seats fall to UKIP, if that means a stronger Conservative govt, if that means we get a Labour led govt,even if it even means we get a Conservative/UKIP coalition,then so be it.
UKIP particularly ,in fairness to them,as one of the main advocates of this referendum and result, have also a right to be heard more as to it now as democratically elected MPs,if they do get more.

That will not happen with just the one single UKIP MP in Westminster,especially one who only gets booed by Conservative and some other MPs in Westminster too, when he speaks.

I have little time at all for UKIP but the House of Commons has to be updated as to representation of all parties after this referendum result.
How do you do that without an election.

So for me, only a general election can decide that new representative parliament for this massive task, it should not now be decided by just a Conservative party only leadership election.

[arista]

"indeed no one, can justifiably deny that UKIP and Farage
were very instrumental in this campaign
and indeed Farage more likely the one who made the referendum possible."

Yes a Doug is the one UKIP MP
he can voice his view

[arista]

Confirmed today on ITV1HD LIVE

Next Election is Month May 2020

I thank the Lady

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Confirmed today on ITV1HD LIVE

Next Election is Month May 2020

I thank the Lady

That's what she says now arista, events as this referendum has shown can massively alter the course of what anyone hopes for or even says.
David Cameron was staying until at least 2019, he is going now.

I wouldn't be so sure this wrong act of saying no election until 2020 will be able to be so,when in fact an election may then have to be held at a time forced in 2020,when negotiations as to trading deals are at a critical point if it takes over 4 years or more.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's what she says now arista, events as this referendum has shown can massively alter the course of what anyone hopes for or even says.
David Cameron was staying until at least 2019, he is going now.

I wouldn't be so sure this wrong act of saying no election until 2020 will be able to be so,when in fact an election may then have to be held at a time forced in 2020,when negotiations as to trading deals are at a critical point if it takes over 4 years or more.

He is Going Now with Valid Reason
not a problem

The EU50 Contract is going ahead this year



Ref: ITV1HD

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

He is Going Now with Valid Reason
not a problem

The EU50 Contract is going ahead this year



Ref: ITV1HD

The very same people going for his job,and now saying only someone on the side of leave should be PM, are the ones who signed a letter asking David Cameron to stay on and see this through.

What a bunch of hypocrites.

I almost honestly believe after this referendum result, that no party or person really wants to govern and certainly not in the National interest whoever does.

[Ammi]

..not sure if this has been posted ...

Theresa May has refused to rule out the deportation of EU nationals living in Britain after the country leaves the European Union, amid fears that guaranteeing their rights at this stage could lead to a “huge influx” of migrants during the Brexit negotiation phase.


http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...cid=spartandhp

...obviously there is the British nationals living in the EU as well.../..just a mess of uncertainty for people and the lives they have built...

[user104658]

"Do you want Gove or May?"

"Oh Hello sir, welcome, on offer today we have a sloppy sh*t-sandwich or, if that doesn't tickle your fancy, we have an ice cream cone doused in pig cum. Bon appetite!"

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Do you want Gove or May?"

"Oh Hello sir, welcome, on offer today we have a sloppy sh*t-sandwich or, if that doesn't tickle your fancy, we have an ice cream cone doused in pig cum. Bon appetite!"

Fantastic TS

[MTVN]

Think arista is going to need to do a third poll the way its going, Leadsom looking more likely than Gove to face off against May

[Mystic Mock]

I've got to be honest I don't know as May's too authoritarian for my tastes.

And Gove is a complete clown across the board who's been setup by the right wing media into making Boris a "victim."