[Kizzy]

Bit quiet on this G7 too isn't she?... Did she spend the whole trip holding trumps hand or what?...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Bit quiet on this G7 too isn't she?... Did she spend the whole trip holding trumps hand or what?...

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Of course, it was global, Labour overspent and made a mess of things but naturally something else is to bear all the blame. There couldn't possibly have been any mismanagement on their part.
They went to war in Iraq but that was 'New Labour', all those still sitting have been wiped clean with the purity of the Jeremy Terroist Sympathies Corbyn waters since then. Ahem.

I couldn't give a flying **** about slating Blair or Brown because they were made from the same mould as the present Tory government. There were only two options after the world crash... sell the gold and prop up the banks or drop neoliberal politics forever and move away from a market run government.

We can't argue about how much Brown spent without knowing and understanding what led us up to the financial crisis. There was a housing bubble in the U.S. The financial industry was de-regulated and so the housing bubble burst and led to the worst financial crisis since the crash of 29 and that financial crisis quickly made its way across the Atlantic.

What Brown did was no different to what our present neoliberal government would of done or will do if it happens again... and it will happen again. When we get a world crash, everyone's deficit sours. The Labour deficit wasn't caused by overspending, it was caused by the economic crash being put into the hands of a neoliberal government.

[Livia]

People who don't support the Tories are not going to think Theresa May is very good, and all those who feel the same will support them. Meanwhile, the alternative is terrorist-appeasing Corbyn. If Corbyn had been in power in the 1930s I can imagine him returning from Germany waving a piece of paper and talking about peace in our time.

You support Hamas, I don't support you.

[Livia]

And another thing.... The further we get away from Labour's total mismanagement of the economy when they were in, the more it can be blamed on the global crash. People have such short memories.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Livia

People who don't support the Tories are not going to think Theresa May is very good, and all those who feel the same will support them. Meanwhile, the alternative is terrorist-appeasing Corbyn. If Corbyn had been in power in the 1930s I can imagine him returning from Germany waving a piece of paper and talking about peace in our time.

You support Hamas, I don't support you.

My late brother-in-law served in Northern Ireland, no way on earth I could give a vote to IRA supporters.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by smudgie

My late brother-in-law served in Northern Ireland, no way on earth I could give a vote to IRA supporters.

My Dad too... People have such short memories.

[Kazanne]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ocial-facebook

People keep excusing all this,just why ?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ocial-facebook

People keep excusing all this,just why ?

People will dismiss this because it's not in the right newspaper... while posting stuff from The Canary as a reliable news source.

If Corbyn ever gets in we're screwed.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

People will dismiss this because it's not in the right newspaper... while posting stuff from The Canary as a reliable news source.

If Corbyn ever gets in we're screwed.

Well there is a video in that too Livia or is that guy a mirage? Yes well and truly screwed.Plus the story has been alluded to in various media forms.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well there is a video in that too Livia or is that guy a mirage? Yes well and truly screwed.Plus the story has been alluded to in various media forms.

I have faith in the wisdom of crowds. The British people will never vote for a terrorist sympathiser.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

I have faith in the wisdom of crowds. The British people will never vote for a terrorist sympathiser.

Fingers crossed Livia.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Livia

People will dismiss this because it's not in the right newspaper... while posting stuff from The Canary as a reliable news source.

If Corbyn ever gets in we're screwed.

i wish i could say 'this election can't come soon enough' but once it's over the bickering and arguments will just continue on brexit instead. i suspect that myself and many others might lose interest in politics altogether, the whole process has become so miserable over the past few years, i'm really fed up with it.

[Smithy]

sTROnG aND StabLE

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

People who don't support the Tories are not going to think Theresa May is very good, and all those who feel the same will support them. Meanwhile, the alternative is terrorist-appeasing Corbyn. If Corbyn had been in power in the 1930s I can imagine him returning from Germany waving a piece of paper and talking about peace in our time.

You support Hamas, I don't support you.

I think only a Conservative politician has done that,Neville Chamberlain.
Very cheap shot from you but up to now history only records a Conservative leader being so fooled as to that one.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

And another thing.... The further we get away from Labour's total mismanagement of the economy when they were in, the more it can be blamed on the global crash. People have such short memories.

Yup.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

People will dismiss this because it's not in the right newspaper... while posting stuff from The Canary as a reliable news source.

If Corbyn ever gets in we're screwed.

You noticed that too?

[LukeB]

strong and stable

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

strong and stable

Good on her for being strong enough to change her mind

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Livia

People will dismiss this because it's not in the right newspaper... while posting stuff from The Canary as a reliable news source.

It's not a case of it not being in 'the right' newspaper..........it's not in a 'newspaper' at all. It's the ****ing Mail, which is basically like the Sun for people who know their alphabet and can count to ten (if they have all of their digits of course).

[Livia]

Originally Posted by RichardG

i wish i could say 'this election can't come soon enough' but once it's over the bickering and arguments will just continue on brexit instead. i suspect that myself and many others might lose interest in politics altogether, the whole process has become so miserable over the past few years, i'm really fed up with it.

Can't come soon enough for me, Richard.

Originally Posted by JTM45

It's not a case of it not being in 'the right' newspaper..........it's not in a 'newspaper' at all. It's the ****ing Mail, which is basically like the Sun for people who know their alphabet and can count to ten (if they have all of their digits of course).

No word about quotes from The Canary though, right?

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think only a Conservative politician has done that,Neville Chamberlain.
Very cheap shot from you but up to now history only records a Conservative leader being so fooled as to that one.

Yes, Neville Chamberlaine was a misguided idiot and a Tory. Corbyn is a misguided idiot and he's Labour. I don't see any cheap shot, I see a valid analogy.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Can't come soon enough for me, Richard.



No word about quotes from The Canary though, right?



Yes, Neville Chamberlaine was a misguided idiot and a Tory. Corbyn is a misguided idiot and he's Labour. I don't see any cheap shot, I see a valid analogy.

Except in that, it's your Conservative party that had a leader who has already done in history what you would only suppose Corbyn would.
With no base to that view,other than personal prejudice against the man.

How could you say for sure Corbyn or any other Labour/other Party leader would have rolled over in the 30s.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

People will dismiss this because it's not in the right newspaper... while posting stuff from The Canary as a reliable news source.

If Corbyn ever gets in we're screwed.

I suppose this is directed at me as the only member who quotes from the canary... What wave I quoted that you have found unreliable?

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Livia

People who don't support the Tories are not going to think Theresa May is very good, and all those who feel the same will support them. Meanwhile, the alternative is terrorist-appeasing Corbyn. If Corbyn had been in power in the 1930s I can imagine him returning from Germany waving a piece of paper and talking about peace in our time.

You support Hamas, I don't support you.

Our country is in Business with Saudi Arabia And we can't act like our constant support of Israel and their wars is all above board too. We really aren't in a position to look down at someone else's evil friends.

FYI. I'm not saying those are worse than Hamas or the IRA, but the point still stands(well Saudi is).

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Our country is in Business with Saudi Arabia. We really aren't in a position to look down at someone else's terrorist friends.

Ah but that'll be seen as okay though because at present it's a Conservative govt doing so.
Really good point however Brother Leon.