[Jack_]

Yeah I really am ****ing sick of the 'you have no respect for democracy' crap. The irony is that in expressing that, one is...not respecting other people's democratic right to freedom of speech, expression and to protest

Democracy does not begin and end at the ballot box. We have referenda and elections and parties and outcomes win and lose. That doesn't mean that all opposition must then be silenced, because in a democracy people are entitled to disagree and continue to campaign for what they believe in. Indeed, everyone's favourite Champion of the People Wanker-Banker Nigel Farage said in the days before the referendum that a 52/48 victory for remain would be 'unfinished business'. It's convenient how people who voted to leave forget that

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yeah I really am ****ing sick of the 'you have no respect for democracy' crap. The irony is that in expressing that, one is...not respecting other people's democratic right to freedom of speech, expression and to protest

Democracy does not begin and end at the ballot box. We have referenda and elections and parties and outcomes win and lose. That doesn't mean that all opposition must then be silenced, because in a democracy people are entitled to disagree and continue to campaign for what they believe in. Indeed, everyone's favourite Champion of the People Wanker-Banker Nigel Farage said in the days before the referendum that a 52/48 victory for remain would be 'unfinished business'. It's convenient how people who voted to leave forget that

Democracy isn't something you can shape so it only works for your point of view. Before you start your rant actually read who brought up democracy and in what context. No one has ever said there should be no campaigning. I don't care what Farage said or didn't say he is no longer relevant.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yeah I really am ****ing sick of the 'you have no respect for democracy' crap. The irony is that in expressing that, one is...not respecting other people's democratic right to freedom of speech, expression and to protest

Democracy does not begin and end at the ballot box. We have referenda and elections and parties and outcomes win and lose. That doesn't mean that all opposition must then be silenced, because in a democracy people are entitled to disagree and continue to campaign for what they believe in. Indeed, everyone's favourite Champion of the People Wanker-Banker Nigel Farage said in the days before the referendum that a 52/48 victory for remain would be 'unfinished business'. It's convenient how people who voted to leave forget that

It's endlessly hypocritical, they want the benefits of freedom of speech, expression and all those other rights....just as long as it doesn't apply to people who don't share their point of view.

[JTM45]

From the Independent;

'Brexit: Support for a second EU referendum is growing, finds poll'
According to the results, more people also believed Brexit would have a 'negative' rather than 'positive' impact on the British economy.

Support is growing for a second European Union referendum once the final terms of the Brexit deal are clear, according to a new poll that suggests a third of the public now back the proposition.

The survey by ICM pollsters for the Guardian found that momentum is growing around idea of a second referendum – advocated by the Liberal Democrats and the Green party – to hold another vote in two years’ time when ministers present the final deal on Britain’s exit to the public.

When respondents were provided with the statement “a second referendum to allow people to decide whether the UK leaves or not, based on the outcome of the negotiations”, 32 per cent said they agreed – a six point increase on the same survey six months’ ago.

The poll came after David Davis, the Brexit Secretary, entered the second round of negotiations in Brussels but was criticised for taking part in less than a hour of discussions with Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief negotiator. Shortly after declaring it was “time to get back to work”, Mr Davis had returned to London.

According to the results, more people also believed Brexit would have a “negative” rather than “positive” impact on the British economy, with 42 per cent and 29 per cent respectively.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by JTM45

From the Independent;

The Independent are the biggest remoaners of all. They twist for all they are worth to present 'journalism' of the one-sided kind.

btw - The whole article rather than a snippet would be preferable. Gives a clearer picture.

[JTM45]

As far as i'm aware it was the whole article.

You're hardly in a position to criticize anyone's sources considering what you quote and from where. Buzzfeed my ass!

We will not be leaving the EU in anything but a symbolical manner (if at all). Believe.
The government are going to take notice of the Banks and Industry over a minority of the British public.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by JTM45

As far as i'm aware it was the whole article.

You're hardly in a position to criticize anyone's sources considering what you quote and from where. Buzzfeed my ass!

We will not be leaving the EU in anything but a symbolical manner (if at all). Believe.
The government are going to take notice of the Banks and Industry over a minority of the British public.

That was my first ever quote from buzzfeed. But the source is was taking its information from was good- hence why I quoted it.

As for the rest of it - wishful thinking?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That was my first ever quote from buzzfeed. But the source is was taking its information from was good- hence why I quoted it.

As for the rest of it - wishful thinking?

The data was misinterpreted, strangely it was the very part you based this thread on that 29% of remainers now want EU members to leave... They don't.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The data was misinterpreted, strangely it was the very part you based this thread on that 29% of remainers now want EU members to leave... They don't.

Says who - the Independent? Gospel then.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Says who - the Independent? Gospel then.

No, the statisticians who have analysed the data sets ... You really mustn't let your prejudice against the Independent colour your view here brillo.