[Livia]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

very sorry to hear that and tbh thats open my eyes because I didn't think Jewish people still went through stuff like that. I only mentioned black people because theres so many cases of black people reporting getting racially abused in public and people are telling them that they're either lying or exaggerating the incident and seeing racism where it's not there. Also I hope you don't think my post was directed just at you...

I'm sure that old guy probably hate a lot of different types of people and is probably every phonic you can imagine... however in this instance he attacked this woman because of her race and the staff seemed to care more about keeping him happy than protecting the woman... I just find getting into the hypothetical mental issues this man may have to be an attempt to shift responsibly from him and takes the victimhood from the woman making the incident seem like 'just one of those things'.... to me its kind of like when the media try to get into the tough upbringing and school life of someone who's just committed something terrible like a terrorist attack or a school shooting...

Thanks Armand, and no I didn't think for a minute any of your posts were directed at me personally. And of course I can see where you're coming from. I'm just saying that the man in the video is clearly a dick. And the woman, being of the Windrush generation has probably heard it all from people even more stupid than he. And there should definitely be consequences for him and some kind of recompense for her. I think the staff looked more like they were trying to calm a nutter so that things didn't escalate, rather than them pandering to him. That's just my perception of course.

Anyhoo, we both agree the man was in the wrong and that the woman was the innocent victim, I am in no way trying to minimise what he said or how it affected her.

Re the Jewish thing... most people don't think stuff like that happens to Jews anymore. The truth is though that antisemitic attacks are at an all-time high in the UK right now. And based on community size, Jews suffer more attacks than any other group. And it's the same kind of people attacking us who attack black people and anyone different from them: idiots full of hate and with very little education.

[Liam-]

The victim was on This Morning either yesterday or Monday if anyone’s interested, she’s such a tiny, frail woman, how anyone could even think about defending that disgusting attack on her is beyond me

[Livia]

It's fine Nicky, the world a tough place, lots of people are made to suffer by people who are frankly inferior, not thorough thinkers. If every little incident gets blown out of all proportion the more serious stories get lost in the outrage.

[arista]

[A man who hurled racist abuse at an elderly black woman on a Ryanair flight has been named as David Mesher.
The accused, who lives in a sheltered retirement housing block in Birmingham, declined to comment to reporters outside his home.]

https://news.sky.com/story/man-filme...esher-11534328

[armand.kay]

also they let some guy with dementia on a flight unattended??? I have to laugh

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

also they let some guy with dementia on a flight unattended??? I have to laugh

who are "they" and lots and lots of people have dementia and have not been diagnosed, usually people who live alone as its partners who notice and make them attend a GP

any way he has stated he is not a racist full time, just when he loses his temper

[bots]

I agree that the bloke is probably just a nasty bigot full stop, but he can only be judged on the particular behaviour shown in this instance

[arista]

The old angry Racist Fella (David Mesher.)
said he apologizes , video clip started on
GMBHD itv.
He claims not to be a Racist?
He just lost his temper?

Exclusive to ITV

[Christmas Dynasnow]

just about to be debated on LBC

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Lady calling in now saying he sounds like he has mental health issues and that when people suffer from such things as dementia just like with Tourettets Racist things tend to come to the fore

she is speaking as a person with experience with mental health

the lady is black herself (and gave some examples like this incident)

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Lady calling in now saying he sounds like he has mental health issues and that when people suffer from such things as dementia just like with Tourettets Racist things tend to come to the fore

she is speaking as a person with experience with mental health

the lady is black herself (and gave some examples like this incident)

Yes could be

[Headie]

Youtube video

Everytime I watch interviews with her it makes me want to cry at how upset she gets This is going to haunt her for the rest of the life and it's so sad

[arista]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Youtube video

Everytime I watch interviews with her it makes me want to cry at how upset she gets This is going to haunt her for the rest of the life and it's so sad

But the Racist
was also on GMBHD itv
he said Sorry to her
lost his temper etc.

But she will not accept it.
I am getting sick of them plugging Virgin
who have given her a FREE holiday.

Free PR
its getting worse

Ryan Air
has moved on, now Virgin Airways are
taking control with a Free Holiday etc,.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

The man will NOT BE PROSECUTED

After a four-month UK police probe, Mirror Online has revealed that the investigation has been shelved because lawyers ruled the offence can only be prosecuted in Spain.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The man will NOT BE PROSECUTED

After a four-month UK police probe, Mirror Online has revealed that the investigation has been shelved because lawyers ruled the offence can only be prosecuted in Spain.

Shame

[arista]

He Got Lucky then.

[user104658]

Ehhhhrrrrmmm OK so...

The things he said are totally unacceptable and the distress it's caused this woman shouldn't be underestimated. That part should go without saying, really. I also think it was handled badly by Ryanair in the sense that the squabbling should never have been allowed to continue for anywhere NEAR as long as it did and a member of staff should have stepped in as soon as voices were raised.

That out of the way...

I think it's not only possible, but actually fairly obvious, that this fellow is not playing with a full deck and early stage dementia is a very real possibility here, not just a random excuse. I would also say it looks to me that there's a potential alcohol issue here which would open up the possibility of Korsakoff, but of course that's an assumption purely based on his demeanor and appearance. Either way I find it fairly evident that he's not mentally 100% well.

I also think the idea that everyone on the flight should be delayed by 6 hours to remove him is actually laughable. Just no.