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Old 12-04-2019, 10:03 PM #76
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We’d manage whatever Brexit we get. We managed just fine before we were members of the EU
Weren't the last time that we had no proper trade deal with any kind of European Union group was in the 60's? I mean I'm not really sure on that but I thought that it was a few decades ago.
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The fear you all have is frightening and hilarious
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saying we managed before is like saying we should go back to black and white tv and 2 channels
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Do you have Sky. We may as well have 2 channels as there’s nothing ever on
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We’d also manage not having brexit at all hahaha
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The fear you all have is frightening and hilarious
You see I think it's all about perspective.

For me personally I have a family member that works in the Car Industry which is getting knocked about quite badly due to a likely no deal Brexit outcome.

It's personal information I know, but I don't want my family member potentially losing their job and countless other people possibly losing their jobs because we as a nation were too stubborn to come to a compromise, or are in a directionless state which leaves us all in a bad way.
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Have you been hacked or something? At least debate your point as to why this very referendum should go ahead without question considering you don't think that there should be a second referendum to stay in the EU, or that there shouldn't be a vote between which Brexit we should have out of Soft or Hard Brexit.

I mean they're the two points I've put forward and the only posts that you've come with so far is mocking a factual point that I've put up, putting up a facepalm emoji, and repeatedly typing ok Mock in your last couple of replies to me.

It's not exactly a great endorsement as to why my points are invalid and why your points are to be respected imo, but I suppose we all see things differently.
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Marsh, are you a leaver?
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And there's nothing wrong in that imo.

I'm obviously a Remainer, but I can respect opposing opinions.

Out of interest are you more in support of a hard or soft Brexit?
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Ok, I didn't know tbh.

My main problem with the EU membership issue is lack of information.

If we are lucky enough to have another referendum I wish somebody impartial, say the Electoral Commission, run infomercials explaining things properly. No agenda, just facts.
Things about the EU, single market, customs union, the current arrangement of the UK membership with all the opt-outs Britain has.
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The EU are money robbing scumbags, they absolutely destroyed countries like Greece
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And there's nothing wrong in that imo.

I'm obviously a Remainer, but I can respect opposing opinions.

Out of interest are you more in support of a hard or soft Brexit?
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Not quite.
Greece destroyed Greece.
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Also how can people justify paying Ł13b a year into an organisation that only gives Ł4b back? Where is the money going to
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Tbf Greece had problems financially before they joined the EU.

I think that Spain had issues financially recently though didn't they?
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So more of a middle ground approach?
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Tbf Greece had problems financially before they joined the EU.

I think that Spain had issues financially recently though didn't they?
But the financial burden and repayment scheme the EU put upon them has crippled them and it would be nowhere as worse if they were not in the EU
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The only fault I could place with the EU re. Greece is that Euro joining conditions were not tough enough. Greece had no business joining it in the shape it was.
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But the financial burden and repayment scheme the EU put upon them has crippled them and it would be nowhere as worse if they were not in the EU
Adam, it'd help if you didn't confuse the EU with the Eurozone.
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The EU are a driving force behind it, Greece would have sorted themselves out
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But the financial burden and repayment scheme the EU put upon them has crippled them and it would be nowhere as worse if they were not in the EU
You're probably right about Greece's situation, but that's because they've joined the EU as a basketcase financially anyway so the people of Greece probably wouldn't notice any initial setbacks if they were to leave like I think that we will once we leave in October or whenever it is that we leave again now. I feel like any EU Imports will see prices sky rocket without no trade arrangement with them but I could be wrong in saying that as I'm no expert on Politics as you can probably tell.

Like Twosugars though I am amazed that the EU let Greece in without no proper checks on Greece's financial state.
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And the advantage for the EU in ruining one of its members would be...? Enlighten me.
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