[Brother Leon]

We had weeks to see what was going on in China and then Italy in order to implement an immediate lockdown and financial package to ensure everyone would have no reason to panic, but instead we stood around scratching our arse until it was too late and just half hearted the way through it.

****ing heartbreaking seeing all these deaths and our healthcare heroes have to go through all this.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

We had weeks to see what was going on in China and then Italy in order to implement an immediate lockdown and financial package to ensure everyone would have no reason to panic, but instead we stood around scratching our arse until it was too late and just half hearted the way through it.

****ing heartbreaking seeing all these deaths and our healthcare heroes have to go through all this.

There was always going to be a massive number of deaths no matter what as the virus was in the UK already and had lots of carriers but the main aim was to keep the deaths down to the minimum as possible.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

There was always going to be a massive number of deaths no matter what as the virus was in the UK already and had lots of carriers but the main aim was to keep the deaths down to the minimum as possible.

This is so ignorant and just WRONG, South Korea are a prime example of exactly how the issue should have been handled

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Smithy

This is so ignorant and just WRONG, South Korea are a prime example of exactly how the issue should have been handled

South Korea have a total different healthcare system and their residents are brought up to follow the rules of the countryside its easier for theto maintain a lockdown or similar.

As we have found it's much harder in the UK and while most have said in not everyone has cared about the rules and continue to go out and infect

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

South Korea have a total different healthcare system and their residents are brought up to follow the rules of the countryside its easier for theto maintain a lockdown or similar.

As we have found it's much harder in the UK and while most have said in not everyone has cared about the rules and continue to go out and infect

London, Paris, Rome, New York will receive many more visitors as well, Seoul is not top of peoples travel wish lists

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

This is so ignorant and just WRONG, South Korea are a prime example of exactly how the issue should have been handled

Easy for them
Full 5G
in South Korea
superfast tracking.

They manufactured Millions of Tests Kits

The UK is nothing like that

[MTVN]

For reference

London is also the most populous and most visited city in Europe and the UK as a whole is one of the most densely populated countries along with the Netherlands and Belgium who are experiencing similar problems to us

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

London, Paris, Rome, New York will receive many more visitors as well, Seoul is not top of peoples travel wish lists

I’d say Seoul is fast becoming a top tourist destination with the growth of KPop, KMovies & KEntertainment

More so that just shows the UK should have acted faster and closed its borders

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

South Korea have a total different healthcare system and their residents are brought up to follow the rules of the countryside its easier for theto maintain a lockdown or similar.

As we have found it's much harder in the UK and while most have said in not everyone has cared about the rules and continue to go out and infect

So what you’re saying is, people in Britain are dying because they don’t follow rules but people in Korea do? Therefore it is their own fault and not the governments for failing to act quicker?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I’d say Seoul is fast becoming a top tourist destination with the growth of KPop, KMovies & KEntertainment

More so that just shows the UK should have acted faster and closed its borders


So what you’re saying is, people in Britain are dying because they don’t follow rules but people in Korea do? Therefore it is their own fault and not the governments for failing to act quicker?

When Korea say lock down it means like down and people wont go out.

In this country local down means lockdown till the sunshine and thousands go out breaking the rules

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I’d say Seoul is fast becoming a top tourist destination with the growth of KPop, KMovies & KEntertainment

More so that just shows the UK should have acted faster and closed its borders


So what you’re saying is, people in Britain are dying because they don’t follow rules but people in Korea do? Therefore it is their own fault and not the governments for failing to act quicker?

It might be rising but it gets nowhere near the same visitor figures

Seoul 2019 17 million
London 2019 30 million

[Denver]

Although I do think the UK should adopt the Korean national service system as it will knock the trouble makers into shape

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

When Korea say lock down it means like down and people wont go out.

In this country local down means lockdown till the sunshine and thousands go out breaking the rules

Well then the government need to impose stricter conditions then, you can’t say this is inevitable when it clearly isn’t, the government should have done more. They are to blame not people’s ignorance to the rules

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Although I do think the UK should adopt the Korean national service system as it will knock the trouble makers into shape

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Smithy

This is so ignorant and just WRONG, South Korea are a prime example of exactly how the issue should have been handled

It's not actually that simple though, SK have a larger number of labs for testing per population so they had the ability to carry out more tests, faster. You can't just "test more" without the lab capacity or an instant test.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not actually that simple though, SK have a larger number of labs for testing per population so they had the ability to carry out more tests, faster. You can't just "test more" without the lab capacity or an instant test.

And yet by the end of the month we will be doing 100k tests a day?

There was time to prepare for this and it was not used properly

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

For reference

London is also the most populous and most visited city in Europe and the UK as a whole is one of the most densely populated countries along with the Netherlands and Belgium who are experiencing similar problems to us

That Chart Shows Smithy is Wrong,


His title is wrong

[James]

As has been said London has a lot of international travel in and out the city, which would have meant more starting cases. When you combine that with its large population living in a small area, using public transport etc. it means the virus spreads faster.

It's easy to cherry pick examples of other countries response and say this is what works. However there's differences between countries that can't be explained. For instance Japan hasn't done much testing, no national lockdown, high population density and a lot of transport with China, yet not many cases.

I read somewhere, by the way, that Belgium are reporting figures differently, including deaths in the community as well as hospitals, which is different to most countries.

[James]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not actually that simple though, SK have a larger number of labs for testing per population so they had the ability to carry out more tests, faster. You can't just "test more" without the lab capacity or an instant test.

South Korea was affected by the SARS outbreak, which caused them create more testing capacity, and meant they were better prepared for testing now. So I read anyway.

[Cherie]

Also SK stuck a travel ban on China, which we should have done but the shouts of racists would have drowned that out

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Also SK stuck a travel ban on China, which we should have done but the shouts of racists would have drowned that out

Nonsense, if it had been to stop the spread of disease the number of people calling it racist would have been small and, also, from the section of the political spectrum that the Conservative government doesnt care about the opinions of.

We didn't put a travel ban on China because the government had a lot invested in the hopes of post-Brexit trade agreements with China, the 5G network, and various other large scale economic projects closely linked to China.

[arista]

USA has now overtaken Italy
Not the UK

USA : 20,071
Italy:19,468

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nonsense, if it had been to stop the spread of disease the number of people calling it racist would have been small and, also, from the section of the political spectrum that the Conservative government doesnt care about the opinions of.

We didn't put a travel ban on China because the government had a lot invested in the hopes of post-Brexit trade agreements with China, the 5G network, and various other large scale economic projects closely linked to China.

Its not nonsense they could have stuck a non essential travel ban on China, pretty sure Donald did and I dont agree with much he does, but there were the usual murmerings ....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Could be up to 8 or 10 years ago.
They will not give the year.

Holby City BBC1HD

Needs to be some questions asked there imo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

comparing countries as if they have the same populations, distributions, care of elderly, health care, travel hubs etc etc

is about as useless as knitting fog

please stay away from facebook and twitter as it is exposing people on a daily basis and in hideous ways

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

comparing countries as if they have the same populations, distributions, care of elderly, health care, travel hubs etc etc

is about as useless as knitting fog

please stay away from facebook and twitter as it is exposing people on a daily basis and in hideous ways

We were well aware of the possibilities of a pandemic, the findings of an excersise were fresh in the mind.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lbc...r-coronavirus/