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[Russia is planning to hold live-fire
naval drills off the Irish coast next month,
with Dublin saying the ships are 'not welcome'
(file image, Russian ships near Saint Petersburg last year)]

[Cherie]

Germany get 40% of their gas from Russia

[bots]

thats why a german general was fired for saying that russia would never invade ukraine and Germany have blocked any of their weapons going to ukraine

[arista]

France is to send Troops to
Ukraine


EU Nato Secretary has announced.

Live SkyNewsHD

[Alf]

Don't you find it strange that us and the Yanks are so concerned with Ukraines border and who comes over it, but our own borders are a free for all for anyone to walk through and they don't care about that.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Don't you find it strange that us and the Yanks are so concerned with Ukraines border and who comes over it, but our own borders are a free for all for anyone to walk through and they don't care about that.

Is their a Russian plot to over throw Bojo and install a Russian PM?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is their a Russian plot to over throw Bojo and install a Russian PM?

Don't know if that's the plot, but yeah, I reckon there is a plot. Why else would fighting age men be entering our country on mass everyday with no signs of pensioners, women or children?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Don't know if that's the plot, but yeah, I reckon there is a plot. Why else would fighting age men be entering our country on mass everyday with no signs of pensioners, women or children?

That is for the useless government to sort out, USA have their own immigration issues

[arista]

Biden doing a Video Link with Nato in the EU


CNN HD USA Feed

[Alf]

It's not gonna happen. I told you that weeks ago. And weeks later you're still believing the bulls!t and saying the same things you were before Christmas.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's not gonna happen. I told you that weeks ago. And weeks later you're still believing the bulls!t and saying the same things you were before Christmas.

I don’t believe they will sort it out...where did I say they would? But why you think the US would get involved is anyone’s guess

What did I say before Christmas?

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Australia is also moving their staff from Ukraine


WION HD

[UserSince2005]

Also i hope someones watching out for China doing a sneak attack on Taiwan when all this kicks off?

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[user104658]

On balance, I do think it's very unlikely that this will escalate into a full armed conflict. This sort of sabre-rattling has been going on since the Cold War.

I guess I'll have a fair amount of egg on my face if I end up sitting in a pool of radioactive fallout after they drop a nuke on the Trident docks eh ...

[bots]

putin has been out of the global narrative in recent years, a lot of this posturing is probably to satisfy his generals.

If america wanted to inflict economic harm on russia, it has the potential to be devastating to russia, if they have the balls to do it. If i were russia i would poodle about a bit and then get back in my box

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/25/ukrain...rn-netherlands

Netherlands: Ukraine embassy staff can voluntarily return to Netherlands
Personnel of the Dutch embassy in Ukraine who want to return to the Netherlands will be allowed to do so. But the Netherlands, unlike the United States and the United Kingdom, still sees no reason to evacuate employees, said Foreign Affairs Minister Wopke Hoekstra.

The choice for evacuation "is a huge dilemma," said Hoekstra. Recalling staff too early could add fuel to the already heated conflict between Russia and the West. But too late is terrifying, with the chaotic evacuation from the Afghan capital of Kabul last summer still fresh in our minds.

Like France and Germany, the Netherlands does not yet consider Ukraine too unsafe for its staff. The US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, who joined the meeting of the EU Foreign Affairs Ministers by video link on Monday, did not change their minds either. But "we have indicated that, if employees themselves or their families want to the Netherlands, they, of course, have the possibility to do so," Hoekstra said afterward. A spokesperson could not immediately say whether anyone had already made this request.

The United States and the United Kingdom have much larger embassies that cannot easily be moved to safety. But they're not closing their doors entirely either, said Hoekstra.

Hoekstra asked other Dutch people in Ukraine to ask themselves whether it is really necessary to be there and to pay close attention to the situation in case it suddenly deteriorates. He emphasized that the fall of Kabul and the subsequent evacuation were "really different." Unlike Afghanistan at the time, Netherlands residents can leave Ukraine "without restrictions" for the time being. The country shares a border and good connections with EU and NATO countries like Poland and Romania.

EU Foreign Ministers asked the EU Foreign Affairs chief Josep Borrell to devise sanctions should Russia attack Ukraine. But they won't speculate on which act Russia can expect which punitive measure. Hoekstra did not rule out any sanctions but also did not want to say whether it is, therefore, conceivable that Russia will be excluded from international payment transactions, for example. The answer will be "big" and "quick," is all he wanted to say. What he noticed above all at his first meeting with the EU Foreign Ministers was their unanimity, he said.

It is precisely the elaboration on sanctions that regularly appears to divide the EU countries. Heavyweight Germany is hesitant, while eastern member states are invariably in favor of a hard line.

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The PM is Live
in Parliament, debating Ukraine and Russia


SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
Live in Ukraine

They say some Ukraine Military arrested
some Russian spies who were going to try to disable
some areas at the borders.
They have their Electronic notebooks.

[arista]

Germany is holding back on sending
anything into Ukraine,
as they get their Gas Supply Direct from Russia.


Logical.

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History of Ukraine