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Rishi Sunak
is Live on SkyNewsHD


bbc1 AM has Labours Rachel Reeves.

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Rachel Reeves
the Shadow Chancellor
was asked on GMBHD itv
"Why Did Starmer do a U turn on
Privatisation of the Energy Companies"?

Rachel said "it would cost too much money
to do that now"

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How's this conservative led post brexit Britain looking?...
Where's farage? ...where's Tommy robinson? Where's Katie hopkins. ..

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

How's this conservative led post brexit Britain looking?...
Where's Farage? ...where's Tommy robinson? Where's Katie hopkins. ..

He is Live Monday to Thursday 7PM
Free DAB Radio and All TV Platforms
GBnewsHD

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Originally Posted by arista

That paper always says the weather going to be bad can nit trust it

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Who is that helping?... nobody that I can see except the energy providers.

All its doing is giving a little funding back to local councils that was removed by central govt a few years ago.
And the extra we had to pay which they cleverly suggested was for adult social care is removed again.
Energy is privatised and so is social care... why are we subsidising them.

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its an unfair system. It's saying people in bigger houses can afford the rise more than anyone else, which is blatantly untrue

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

its an unfair system. It's saying people in bigger houses can afford the rise more than anyone else, which is blatantly untrue

To be fair... It isn't untrue for the most part, IN GENERAL people in higher council tax bands are going to have higher household income and can probably afford the CURRENT increases. There will obviously be exceptions so yes I think there should be an appeals/discretionary process for those whose CT band doesn't match their income reality.

However.

IMO they should rethink Council Tax altogether.


Also it still doesn't help the lowest income families because they will be on 100% Council tax benefit already. So a council tax cut saves them... Zero...

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair... It isn't untrue for the most part, IN GENERAL people in higher council tax bands are going to have higher household income and can probably afford the CURRENT increases. There will obviously be exceptions so yes I think there should be an appeals/discretionary process for those whose CT band doesn't match their income reality.

However.

IMO they should rethink Council Tax altogether.


Also it still doesn't help the lowest income families because they will be on 100% Council tax benefit already. So a council tax cut saves them... Zero...

I think there are many more people in higher council tax band on lower or fixed incomes due to the huge jump in housing cost over the last 20yrs.
In my area houses that were 70k in 99 are 250k today.

Also in cute villages the cost of homes has rocketed due to city dwellers buying up 2nd homes.

I didn't think there was such a thing as 100% council tax exemptions. .. don't they pay £125?

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think there are many more people in higher council tax band on lower or fixed incomes due to the huge jump in housing cost over the last 20yrs.

In my area houses that were 70k in 99 are 250k today.



Also in cute villages the cost of homes has rocketed due to city dwellers buying up 2nd homes.



I didn't think there was such a thing as 100% council tax exemptions. .. don't they pay £125?

Council tax band isn't based on current house prices, it's (bizarrely) based on the value the property would have had if sold in 1991. That includes houses built after 1991... They assess new builds and make an estimate of what they would have been sold at 30 years ago. It's like they bodged the system together out of cardboard and tape... But for better or worse... That's genuinely how it works.

As for 100% exemptions I think that depends on what services are included... I know that when I was on the bennies in England we paid zero council tax (but had a separate water bill) whereas when we moved to Scotland we paid a small fixed amount of council tax because water services in Scotland are built into council tax, and you didn't get that part paid through housing benefit.

I don't really know the system these days as benefits were still all separate things back then, and it's all Universal Credit now.

I think there will definitely be people on low incomes who don't benefit from the council tax rebates (or any of the NI/income tax changes) but will still be hit with doubling energy bills.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Council tax band isn't based on current house prices, it's (bizarrely) based on the value the property would have had if sold in 1991. That includes houses built after 1991... They assess new builds and make an estimate of what they would have been sold at 30 years ago. It's like they bodged the system together out of cardboard and tape... But for better or worse... That's genuinely how it works.

As for 100% exemptions I think that depends on what services are included... I know that when I was on the bennies in England we paid zero council tax (but had a separate water bill) whereas when we moved to Scotland we paid a small fixed amount of council tax because water services in Scotland are built into council tax, and you didn't get that part paid through housing benefit.

I don't really know the system these days as benefits were still all separate things back then, and it's all Universal Credit now.

I think there will definitely be people on low incomes who don't benefit from the council tax rebates (or any of the NI/income tax changes) but will still be hit with doubling energy bills.

I think i see where the problem is TS. Thats not how it is in england. I'm in a band e house, that is nice, but nothing outstanding. All property was regraded in england in the semi recent past, 1991 prices have long gone here as a marker

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