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Old 03-06-2024, 10:43 PM #1
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Farage is definitely right on thing.

This Election is more boring than some of our more recent ones around it.
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Thanks for posting it.
was in a meeting.
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Thanks for posting it.
was in a meeting.
How are you not retired Arista. Surely it's time for some time off .
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How are you not retired Arista. Surely it's time for some time off .


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Funny how a man who's supposed to be about fair elections, kicked Tice out and said I Farage am the leader now.

No votes.

Putin would be proud.
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It's an odd one. Farage, if you can say anything for him, is at the very least politically savvy so he does understand fine well that the effect of making Reform more popular is essentially further erosion of Tory seats and, as the papers say, potentially even more Lab and LibDem seats.

He simply must want the Tories to be wiped out.

I guess the reason for that might be quiet obvious - if a massive coup successfully plays out and theres an opposition vacuum...
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"He simply must want the Tories to be wiped out."


Yes blame Boris
who told Farage he would do more,
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The fewer Tory MPs there are the more chance Farage can style himself as the true figurehead of conservatism in the House especially if Reform do very well in the popular vote. There's a legit possibility of them then merging with the Tories and him becoming the new leader of the opposition
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The fewer Tory MPs there are the more chance Farage can style himself as the true figurehead of conservatism in the House especially if Reform do very well in the popular vote. There's a legit possibility of them then merging with the Tories and him becoming the new leader of the opposition
That was my thought exactly MTVN - I reckon he's playing the long game to stage a coup of the opposition before 2029, and position himself for Prime Minister in 10 years time.
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yep, this is opportunism at it's finest. It's what all politicians do so it's not exactly unusual
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The Mail doing all it can to not show Farage and to say vote Reform get Labour

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The MSM feed is down so the above is live
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that is why citizen journalism is so very important
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that is why citizen journalism is so very important
You seem very willing to accept the MSM reporting out of Gaza vs citizen-shot video footage though? Like I agree to an extent but it's meaningless when you pick-n-choose.
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You seem very willing to accept the MSM reporting out of Gaza vs citizen-shot video footage though? Like I agree to an extent but it's meaningless when you pick-n-choose.
Im not accepting anything I watched Nigels speech live shot independently on a phone

the MSM for "some" reason could not broadcast it
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Im not accepting anything I watched Nigels speech live shot independently on a phone

the MSM for "some" reason could not broadcast it
You're saying that citizen journalism is important because the MSM sometimes (often, I would say) twists a narrative to fit an agenda. Obviously independent "journalists" do that too - but I wonder why you'd quote/repost MSM material as "proof" that the socially reported narrative is false if you also think that. (e.g. I'm specifically thinking of the IDF bombing "maps" posted by the MSM that you used as evidence that refugee camp bombing was a lie).

Why was the MSM reliable in that case, if they're not reliable in all cases?

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You're saying that citizen journalism is important because the MSM sometimes (often, I would say) twists a narrative to fit an agenda. Obviously independent "journalists" do that too - but I wonder why you'd quote/repost MSM material as "proof" that the socially reported narrative is false if you also think that. (e.g. I'm specifically thinking of the IDF bombing "maps" posted by the MSM that you used as evidence that refugee camp bombing was a lie).

Why was the MSM reliable in that case, if they're not reliable in all cases?
No I meant the MSM is not showing it as they had a "problem with the feed"

so thankfully it was broadcast by non MSM sources

As for the IDF stuff they show maps, and their own pics and evidence - I doubt there is any other organisation in the known world that undergoes the scrutiny they get so and its direct from Israel - no one else is batting for them or has that degree of evidence so its an important source - make of it as you will but to ignore it would be futile.
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peaceful protest IMO. Snowflakes out in force acting like it's assault.
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