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mrluval;uva no offence mate buit it seems like you don t understand what you talkin about so yopu goiong to make an argumnet an yway. maybe leave the ego at the door next time ye mate

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by molecular
mrluval;uva no offence mate buit it seems like you don t understand what you talkin about so yopu goiong to make an argumnet an yway. maybe leave the ego at the door next time ye mate

Ego? Please explain why I don't understand what I am talking about? In what way am I making an argument?

[molecular]

i don t know much aboput this subject so i goiong to read and learn not argue with you mate. se you later.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ron21
women were never oppressed

A quote for you:

"A Pakistani minister and woman's activist has been shot dead by an Islamic extremist for refusing to wear the veil. Zilla Huma Usman, the minister for social welfare in Punjab province and an ally of President Pervez Musharraf, was killed as she was about to deliver a speech to dozens of party activists, by a "fanatic", who believed that she was dressed inappropriately and that women should not be involved in politics, officials said.

Mrs Usman, 35, was wearing the shalwar kameez worn by many professional women in Pakistan, but did not cover her head."

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[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ron21
MrLuv, when I said women were never oppressed, I was referring to Western Women

Well what is your definition of a western woman? Just so I am clear.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ron21
Oh, and I almost forgot, the example you highlighted was not due to a bias in the legal system but was a vigilante attack.

In my own disbelief at your ignorance, I ALMOST forgot to make that very important point.

It was a vigilante attack, yes, but in places such as Iran (for example) it is enforced and a females dress code is actually part of the law.

[Mrluvaluva]

Are you a former member known as The Hitman Ron21? Just curious?

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[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ron21

Are you serious?

I shall humour you nonetheless: the West (as in Western World) consists of the UK (where I am from), US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand etc... simply put: developed countries where the government is non-limited, and where feminist influence discriminates against men.

I just wanted to be clear before you changed what you meant. You didn't exactly make yourself clear in your first post now did you?

To move on.....

Ok. What about the hundreds, if not thousands, of women who are murdered by their families each year in the name of family "honour."

FYI reports submitted to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights show that honour killings have occurred in Bangladesh, Great Britain, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Pakistan, Morocco, Sweden, Turkey, and Uganda.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ron21

But if you REALLY want me to counterclaim what you have said, perhaps you would find it interesting to know that in Muslims states, male circumcision is the norm, thereby infringing considerably on the male sexual organs, without his explicit consent.

Further, in Muslims states, men are insructed to grow facial hair and to also dress in a modest manner (i.e. the covering of the body in robes or heavy clothing, plus hats).

But Luvs, let us keep on track. You may enjoy steering the conversation off-course, but that is not my desire.

I am quite aware of this, but this isn't what is under discussion. The subject in ahnd was "female oppression". I do not refute your above statement. And you say I am trying to steer the conversation off course.

As for being a former member, I was just curious as your posting style is so similar to theirs. They even posted with CAPITALS mid scentence to make a point on certain words.

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[Mrluvaluva]

You are talking b0llocks now. My reply was to your statement that "women are not oppressed" and you change it to "men are more oppressed than women". Yes I know this is the topic of this thread, but that is not what I referred to. Read back on my posts. That is not the point I replied to. You also seem to think you know myself better than I do by posting such comments as "It is clear you are not" when I state I am aware of matters. And you say that I am deliberately trying to steer the subject off course, say that I don't read very much and imply that I am 3 years old. What stupid comments. You claim you are 21. Isn't about time you started acting it and being less childish?

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[molecular]

luvaluva please just leave it at that this is gettin g uncomfortable.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Ron21
an example of why you are to be mocked and ridiculed.

Says it all really. You have clearly shown that that is your intent from your very first post. I think the term is known as "troll". You try to change my answers into something that they are not, and change your statements as you go along. This has also been pointed out to me by other members. And as you are clearly getting a kick out of this, I think my best option is just to ignore you.

You can rejoice in your well earned glory, for I do not want to debate with someone so obtuse as you. I am sure this will give you great satisfaction as you will think that you have "won" the (and I refer to it loosely) "debate" in hand.

People like you are never open to anybody elses comments, and just disregard anything anybody else has to say. You are not interested in a discussion on matters. Your aim is just to get your point accross and you are always 100% right, which shows in the plain ordacity of some of your comments. You have made it quite clear in many threads that your intention is to cause conflict, and you obviously get off on that.

Maybe a shrink would help?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by molecular
luvaluva please just leave it at that this is gettin g uncomfortable.

Why is it uncomfortable?

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[Magic]

You wanted my contribuation, so here it is.

No.