[Captain.Remy]

Message original : officialleafan
talking about how bad her childhood was

That's because she didn't have a bad one. Some people think music is the only way to let their emotions out. Eminem does it very well, and fair enough if it makes him feeling better.

[30stone]

Chris brown.

[Iceman]

Officialfan listen to Lose Yourself, definately an eminem great song. The lyrics are unbelievable.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by officialleafan

It's light hearted fun! Not talking slagging off celebs and talking about how bad her childhood was

Slagging off celebrities from Paris Hilton??
Talking about how bad her childhood was, from Paris Hilton?
Dude, what the hell!!!!??????

[CiaraD]

Lady GaGa.
Rhianna.
Miley Cyrus Jonas brothers etc...
possibly Britney Spears

[Novo]

Leona lewis

So she has got a christmas number 1 but lets face is x factor winners are more or less 100% going to get the christmas #1 She has covered a snow patrol song which IMO was no where near up to scratch with the original Since bleeding love she has gone downhill and will continue to go downhill

bye bye Leona

[Shaun]

I think she got more than a Christmas No#1 - Bleeding Love was No#1 for, what, 3 or 4 weeks?

I'd agree that she is overrated though. All big singers like Whitney, Mariah, etc. are.

[Wildcat!]

Say what you want about Leona, maybe you dont like her style, but she is certainly not over rated. She gets the acclaim she deserves in my opinion, for her incredible talent.

[KKBL]

Originally posted by Shaun
I think she got more than a Christmas No#1 - Bleeding Love was No#1 for, what, 3 or 4 weeks?

I'd agree that she is overrated though. All big singers like Whitney, Mariah, etc. are.

7 weeks.Run got to #1 aswell so thats 3 #1's.But anyway i wouldnt say shes under or overrated.Shes just where she deserves to be IMHO.

[Stu]

Again I dont even consider Leona to be an artist. Theirs no art or creativity to her whatsoever. She is a singer, first and foremost, not a creative recording artist.

[Twilight]

Kings of leon i mean tell me what actully good about them
Eminem hes crap and all his videos are just Ew

and omg tell me how Taylor Swift is over rated

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Twilight
Kings of leon i mean tell me what actully good about them
Eminem hes c**p and all his videos are just Ew

and omg tell me how Taylor Swift is over rated

1) They possess talent, write good songs.
2) Hmm, I guess that's where you and his millions of fans will disagree.

and I can't even summon the strength to discuss Taylor Swift as an "artist".

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by Twilight

Eminem hes c**p and all his videos are just Ew

and omg tell me how Taylor Swift is over rated

You have them completely the wrong way around.

Eminem is amazing, his songs have deep meaning and tell many stories of is childhood and all the troubles he went through as a child and gtowing up and he manages to get on top. Eminem writes his songs and has massive input into the creative process of all of his albums, Eminem is an amazing songwriter and unique artist.

Whereas Taylor Swift is nothing more than a vocalist constructed through nothing but an image created by her management. I doubt she writes her songs or has much input into her music. I'd be willing to bet my money she won't have a long career, nor will she ever become a credible artist and write meaningful songs like Eminem does.

I do respect your opinion but there's my two cents.

[Stu]

Originally posted by DamonJ

You have them completely the wrong way around.

Eminem is amazing, his songs have deep meaning and tell many stories of is childhood and all the troubles he went through as a child and gtowing up and he manages to get on top. Eminem writes his songs and has massive input into the creative process of all of his albums, Eminem is an amazing songwriter and unique artist.

Whereas Taylor Swift is nothing more than a vocalist constructed through nothing but an image created by her management. I doubt she writes her songs or has much input into her music. I'd be willing to bet my money she won't have a long career, nor will she ever become a credible artist and write meaningful songs like Eminem does.

I do respect your opinion but there's my two cents.

Well said .

[Twilight]

Originally posted by DamonJ

You have them completely the wrong way around.

Eminem is amazing, his songs have deep meaning and tell many stories of is childhood and all the troubles he went through as a child and gtowing up and he manages to get on top. Eminem writes his songs and has massive input into the creative process of all of his albums, Eminem is an amazing songwriter and unique artist.

Whereas Taylor Swift is nothing more than a vocalist constructed through nothing but an image created by her management. I doubt she writes her songs or has much input into her music. I'd be willing to bet my money she won't have a long career, nor will she ever become a credible artist and write meaningful songs like Eminem does.

I do respect your opinion but there's my two cents.

umm Taylor Swift does writes her songs and has input into her music

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by DamonJ

You have them completely the wrong way around.

Eminem is amazing, his songs have deep meaning and tell many stories of is childhood and all the troubles he went through as a child and gtowing up and he manages to get on top. Eminem writes his songs and has massive input into the creative process of all of his albums, Eminem is an amazing songwriter and unique artist.

Whereas Taylor Swift is nothing more than a vocalist constructed through nothing but an image created by her management. I doubt she writes her songs or has much input into her music. I'd be willing to bet my money she won't have a long career, nor will she ever become a credible artist and write meaningful songs like Eminem does.

I do respect your opinion but there's my two cents.

well as far as I know Taylor wrote every song on Fearless and I think it's unfair to just group her with all the other Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers, manufactured artists because as she worked very hard tog et where she is and can play the guitar and wasn't just propelled into the disney channel or whatever, she worked hard for her sucess.

I agree on the Em frotn tho, Twilight there is more to an aritst than pretty music videos.

[Z]

The Beatles; God they're so manufactured, do they even write any of their own material!? So overrated.

[andyman]

Scooter.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by MrGaryy

well as far as I know Taylor wrote every song on Fearless and I think it's unfair to just group her with all the other Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers, manufactured artists because as she worked very hard tog et where she is and can play the guitar and wasn't just propelled into the disney channel or whatever, she worked hard for her sucess.

I agree on the Em frotn tho, Twilight there is more to an aritst than pretty music videos.

I know there's more to an artist than pretty music videos but some of his are eww like we made you but then there's Stan which is amazing.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Twilight

I know there's more to an artist than pretty music videos but some of his are eww like we made you but then there's Stan which is amazing.

exactly so why even mention his videos then? they're no reflection on him as an artist, they're merely for promo.

[Tom4784]

I'm disgusted at some of the artists listed in this thread. I've said it before but I'll say it again. TIBB generally needs an injection of taste.

Here's my list.

BRITNEY SPEARS
She's got a load of fans but she hasn't changed much musically since her first few albums. The only thing that's changed is that she's become more sexualised in her music. Her vocals aren't great and her dancing skills are good but not great. Her music lacks depth and she only has so much time in the music industry as she is now as looks fade, and most of her songs are based around her sex appeal.

She has catchy music I'll give you that but if you look at her musically there's not much there.

LADY GAGA
Even though she considers herself a work of art her music is far from one. From what I've heard her songs all sound similar and she depends too much on this' quirky' persona of hers. If she diversified her sound and took her head out of her arse she could be quite a pop singer.

MOST 'RAPPERS' IN THE INDUSTRY TODAY
Flo Rida is not a rapper, neither is T-pain or any other rapper of the week. I hate rap but I can appreciate it as a form of music. Flo Rida in particular is awful, he can't sing he can't rap and he sampled a bad song to create an awful one. Please disapear into a deep crevice somewhere.

LEONA LEWIS
I liked her at first but then I realised that apart from her voice there's nothing there. She can only sing ballads, Forgive Me was awful. Her personality never gets a chance to shine through as her music is cold.

I'll have to think of some more.

Henry Matisse i wud say!


leonardo da vinci deserves all the credit he gets

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[MarkWaldorf]

Miley Cyrus, Taylor Swift and the Jonas Brothers all write their own music, play an instrument (or more) and often sing live concerts/gigs.

I think its unfair to brand them as tools or puppets for their managements, when actually they do a lot more musically than a lot of well known, established artists do.

[30stone]

Yes sia.