[robb]

Originally Posted by Zippy

what cod.

yes she is worried about hurting one of their feelings. She did not sign up to cast the deciding vote at all. The structure is there for her to not have to...with deadlock. She did not have to choose between them if theyd simply asked her last. Not difficult to do and they manage to do it when its Simon in that position.

Cheryl has worked with and mentored these girls for months now and your post doesnt grasp that simple fact.

Pity she couldn't have decided, as Dannii did, who DESERVED to go through on the sing off. She would have earned far more respect for that, rather than her silly get out of jail tactic.

[IheartBB]

Originally Posted by Zippy

what cod.

yes she is worried about hurting one of their feelings. She did not sign up to cast the deciding vote at all. The structure is there for her to not have to...with deadlock. She did not have to choose between them if theyd simply asked her last. Not difficult to do and they manage to do it when its Simon in that position.

Cheryl has worked with and mentored these girls for months now and your post doesnt grasp that simple fact.

For the first three years of the show, there was no such thing as copout - sorry, deadlock. The three judges had the final say. What I was getting at in my post was that a judge's casting vote should not be swayed by the other judges or the crowd. I said in another thread that they should vote confidentially and have it come up on screen in front of them (ala Dancing on Ice or something).

You go ahead and think that Cheryl and her acts are all best buds if you wish. Just let me remind you of last week (or was it the week before) when she was stumped to embarrassing silence when Simon asked her to name Treyc's home town.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by IheartBB

Just let me remind you of last week (or was it the week before) when she was stumped to embarrassing silence when Simon asked her to name Treyc's home town.

Er, no she wasn't. She said Birmingham and added that she even went there herself to tell her she'd been chosen!

Just because she didnt answer in under 0.25 seconds doesnt somehow prove she doesnt care about TreyC!

Anyways, whatever. Cheryl was right not to choose between them and the producers(or Dermot) were wrong to ask her second. End of.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Er, no she wasn't. She said Birmingham and added that she even went there herself to tell her she'd been chosen!

Just because she didnt answer in under 0.25 seconds doesnt somehow prove she doesnt care about TreyC!

Anyways, whatever. Cheryl was right not to choose between them and the producers(or Dermot) were wrong to ask her second. End of.

actually treyc lives in tamworth so cheryl got it wrong.

[IheartBB]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Er, no she wasn't. She said Birmingham and added that she even went there herself to tell her she'd been chosen!

Just because she didnt answer in under 0.25 seconds doesnt somehow prove she doesnt care about TreyC!

Anyways, whatever. Cheryl was right not to choose between them and the producers(or Dermot) were wrong to ask her second. End of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjti6dV3Pjg

You think this is not embarrassing silence?

And seeing as though there is a very valid argument as to what order the judges should or should not be asked, it clearly is not the "end of" anything.

[robb]

Originally Posted by IheartBB

Why should any judge have the casting vote? It shouldn't matter whether Cheryl voted second or last, her choice should still be the same. She was asked to vote off an act, she didn't, she loses her vote. Simple. Worried about hurting one of their feelings? Too bad. She knew what she signed up for. It's just business. It's not like she'll be in contact with either of them after the show is over.

I have a feeling that Cheryl thought the other 3 would just vote in favour of katie anyway.Simon already had. That would have meant she DIDN'T have to vote at the end. Her 'send it to deadlock' was presumptious anyway. How did she know she would have to? Anyway you could tell on ITV2 that she got what she wanted: Katie through, Treyc out.

[Mystic Mock]

i would love every judge to refuse to vote next week,i wonder if people will defend them? no they wouldnt but still as i will keep saying,dermot shouldnt have gone to cheryl second.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

i would love every judge to refuse to vote next week,i wonder if people will defend them? no they wouldnt but still as i will keep saying,dermot shouldnt have gone to cheryl second.

actually I think they would all refuse in that position. Because they know that Dermot would then be forced to just move on to the next judge! Like he did last night.

If theyre asked at an unnecessary point then they should refuse to vote like Cheryl did. No judge should have to pick between their own acts like that.

[fruit_cake]

It was a tricky night all round for Dermot

[patsylimerick]

Anyone's position on this fiasco depends on what they believe happens backstage prior to the results being announced. I, personally, believe the judges know exactly what the results are and are told/decide what's going to happen next. It's a bloody pantomime, a poorly acted and increasingly tedious one at that. As to whose fault Sunday night's shenanigans were - all of them.