[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Stick to the topic jack, you have made some spectacular claims as to chuffs character on here over the last few weeks , so I suggest if you don't like to be labelled don't label others.

Dead right ,how many times a day can someone label everyone as homophobic who doesnt kiss ass with a gay housemate before they look like they are hounding folks?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Are you taking the ****ing piss? Do you have any evidence for this?

Pretty sure if I was heterosexist all my friends wouldn't be straight and I wouldn't prefer women myself

And Chuff...you can give me some evidence that I'm heterosexist too thanks, seeing as you really know me in real life.

This whole thread is proof enough.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Are you taking the ****ing piss? Do you have any evidence for this?

Pretty sure if I was heterosexist all my friends wouldn't be straight and I wouldn't prefer women myself

And Chuff...you can give me some evidence that I'm heterosexist too thanks, seeing as you really know me in real life.

Can you give us any evidence that Ron is trans phobic?

[DanaC]

Umm...Jack didn't seem to be saying Lauren was right to make that accusation. Just that it is understandable that her expectations may be skewed by past experience.

I can totally relate to that. As a kid I was bullied fairly relentlessly for most of my school life, because I had very severe and disfiguring eczema. Strangers used to stare at me. Small children on buses wuold ask their parents, in loud voices, 'what's wrong with that girl's face?'. As a very small child, I experienced the parents of other small children pulling their little ones away from me 'in case they caught it'.

When I was in my late teens/early 20s, though the eczema was no longer so apparent, and particularly not apparent on my face, if someone looked atme on a bus or in the street, it would never, in a million years have occurred to me that they might be looking because they thought I was pretty. Even if a lad looked at me, I'd assume he was looking because I was ugly, or because they could see the (by now very faint) signs of eczema.

It took me a long time to stop making that assumption of people.

You do become conditioned to the responses you've been used to from other people.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Umm...Jack didn't seem to be saying Lauren was right to make that accusation. Just that it is understandable that her expectations may be skewed by past experience.

I can totally relate to that. As a kid I was bullied fairly relentlessly for most of my school life, because I had very severe and disfiguring eczema. Strangers used to stare at me. Small children on buses wuold ask their parents, in loud voices, 'what's wrong with that girl's face?'. As a very small child, I experienced the parents of other small children pulling their little ones away from me 'in case they caught it'.

When I was in my late teens/early 20s, though the eczema was no longer so apparent, and particularly not apparent on my face, if someone looked atme on a bus or in the street, it would never, in a million years have occurred to me that they might be looking because they thought I was pretty. Even if a lad looked at me, I'd assume he was looking because I was ugly, or because they could see the (by now very faint) signs of eczema.

You do become conditioned to the responses you've been used to from other people.

I know, but I have been attacked, and banned already, and I am on Lauren's side, so something is wrong here.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I know, but I have been attacked, and banned already, and I am on Lauren's side, so something is wrong here.

You were banned for referring to lauren as a shemale. And for bringing up your infraction for that on the main board.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You were banned for referring to lauren as a shemale. And for bringing up your infraction for that on the main board.

I know, but I was only defending myself. I have to be perfect, and scientific about everything. I can't call Lauren an actual woman because it is a lie.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I know, but I was only defending myself. I have to be perfect, and scientific about everything. I can't call Lauren an actual woman because it is a lie.

Shemale isn't perfect, the correct term is transgendered.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I know, but I was only defending myself. I have to be perfect, and scientific about everything. I can't call Lauren an actual woman because it is a lie.

Call her a transsexual then. It's accurate and non-offensive.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I know, but I was only defending myself. I have to be perfect, and scientific about everything. I can't call Lauren an actual woman because it is a lie.

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

It's not a gender to me, it's more like a description of an operation. It doesn't fit well.

Shemale is not scientific. Nor is it a gender.

So you're contradicting yourself. Either you want to refer to her accurately or you don't?

Poor reasoning for using an offensive term.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You were banned for referring to lauren as a shemale.

Pincho was banned for that? seriously?

Deary, deary me

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Pincho was banned for that? seriously?

Deary, deary me

I know I shouldnt bring up infractions here but it has become a lot stricter.

Ive been banned a total of 3 weeks this year and literally in retaliation to comments claiming I was a heterophobe. and that member wasn't banned at all.

Still posts the same offensive comments.

Please don't infract me for this comment lol I am a very productive forum member

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Umm...Jack didn't seem to be saying Lauren was right to make that accusation. Just that it is understandable that her expectations may be skewed by past experience.

I can totally relate to that. As a kid I was bullied fairly relentlessly for most of my school life, because I had very severe and disfiguring eczema. Strangers used to stare at me. Small children on buses wuold ask their parents, in loud voices, 'what's wrong with that girl's face?'. As a very small child, I experienced the parents of other small children pulling their little ones away from me 'in case they caught it'.

When I was in my late teens/early 20s, though the eczema was no longer so apparent, and particularly not apparent on my face, if someone looked atme on a bus or in the street, it would never, in a million years have occurred to me that they might be looking because they thought I was pretty. Even if a lad looked at me, I'd assume he was looking because I was ugly, or because they could see the (by now very faint) signs of eczema.

It took me a long time to stop making that assumption of people.

You do become conditioned to the responses you've been used to from other people.

THANK YOU

This is precisely the point I've been trying to make, but you've made it much more articulately than I've been able to. Thanks.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

THANK YOU

This is precisely the point I've been trying to make, but you've made it much more articulately than I've been able to. Thanks.

That is only one example of that jack it does'nt prove it in all cases or excuse lauren in this instance, in this environment all comments are put under a microscope and scrutinised to the n'th degree by the media.She was wrong to say that comment as mud sticks, it was a totally unsubstantiated assumption that may cause this man problems I feel that is totally unfair.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Umm...Jack didn't seem to be saying Lauren was right to make that accusation. Just that it is understandable that her expectations may be skewed by past experience.

I can totally relate to that. As a kid I was bullied fairly relentlessly for most of my school life, because I had very severe and disfiguring eczema. Strangers used to stare at me. Small children on buses wuold ask their parents, in loud voices, 'what's wrong with that girl's face?'. As a very small child, I experienced the parents of other small children pulling their little ones away from me 'in case they caught it'.

When I was in my late teens/early 20s, though the eczema was no longer so apparent, and particularly not apparent on my face, if someone looked atme on a bus or in the street, it would never, in a million years have occurred to me that they might be looking because they thought I was pretty. Even if a lad looked at me, I'd assume he was looking because I was ugly, or because they could see the (by now very faint) signs of eczema.

It took me a long time to stop making that assumption of people.

You do become conditioned to the responses you've been used to from other people.

In fairness you have worded that well and far better than anything jack said
It is still wrong however to label someone phobic with no evidence, probably worse to do so on national telly.
ps I completely empathise and sympthise with your plight. children and people can be cruel, especially when its a disability they can see. it must have been very hard for you and despite everyone thinking im a mysoginist on here for fighting for mens rights. I have a big heart and I offer you a huge cyber hug. if you ever want to pm me for a chat I will always respind, as believe it or not I am actually sincere.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

despite everyone thinking im a mysoginist on here for fighting for mens rights.

Perhaps you should stop fighting for men's rights then and start championing equality.

Demonising the opposite sex to try and right a few wrongs doesn't solve anything.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Perhaps you should stop fighting for men's rights then and start championing equality.

Demonising the opposite sex to try and right a few wrongs doesn't solve anything.

YES!!!

Love this post lol.

Sick of all these mens rights threads.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Perhaps you should stop fighting for men's rights then and start championing equality.

Demonising the opposite sex to try and right a few wrongs doesn't solve anything.

Great post, marsh...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Perhaps you should stop fighting for men's rights then and start championing equality.

Demonising the opposite sex to try and right a few wrongs doesn't solve anything.

That would make perfect sense, well said!

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by the truth

In fairness you have worded that well and far better than anything jack said
It is still wrong however to label someone phobic with no evidence, probably worse to do so on national telly.
ps I completely empathise and sympthise with your plight. children and people can be cruel, especially when its a disability they can see. it must have been very hard for you and despite everyone thinking im a mysoginist on here for fighting for mens rights. I have a big heart and I offer you a huge cyber hug. if you ever want to pm me for a chat I will always respind, as believe it or not I am actually sincere.

do not worry truth, many like myself appreciate your support

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Why is it that whenever TheTruth comes into a thread it turns into people arguing about sexism/homo/hetrophobia?

Just an observation.

Planting seeds?

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Why is it that whenever TheTruth comes into a thread it turns into people arguing about sexism/homo/hetrophobia?

Just an observation.

Planting seeds?

The thread is about a seed planted by Lauren. It will swing too and fro between the seed, and defending the seed. That's what happens in a topic about a seed.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

The thread is about a seed planted by Lauren. It will swing too and fro between the seed, and defending the seed. That's what happens in a topic about a seed.

Stop saying seed so much.

Its making me wet.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Why is it that whenever TheTruth comes into a thread it turns into people arguing about sexism/homo/hetrophobia?

Just an observation.

Planting seeds?

Youve got the wrong one there Daniel

[DanaC]

@ the truth: aww, thanks m'dear. Cyber hugs are always nice *smiles*