[Ammi]

Originally Posted by smeagol

all we do is survival though be it work or going to tescos. thats why people go mental when theirs one loaf of bread left or stuck in traffic , we act civilized but were not.
most of us eat meat which is living flesh we just package it nicely. otherwise we'd all be chasing cats and pigeons for lunch lol

uk u.s is more civilized than most countries i,ll give us that but what we gain in some ways they beat us in others.

...a lot of people get luxuries at Tesco as well though..things they would 'survive' without, but I think I understand what you mean now..more a quality of life/values..?...

[Kizzy]

The issue I would say is socialisation, if done well you have decent free thinking, empathic, spirited individuals with the tools to go on to inspire, motivate and educate the next generation.
That is hard enough to achieve, but in a lot of ways hindered by the rules of religion and the freedom of the internet.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The issue I would say is socialisation, if done well you have decent free thinking, empathic, spirited individuals with the tools to go on to inspire, motivate and educate the next generation.
That is hard enough to achieve, but in a lot of ways hindered by the rules of religion and the freedom of the internet.

Yes
Free Schools are helping
with parents having better control of their Future

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
Free Schools are helping
with parents having better control of their Future

I wouldn't say the free schools are helping... Why would anyone want their child taught in a school where the staff are not qualified teachers?
As an important tool in socialisation I would expect that those with the responsibility of moulding minds was competent.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I wouldn't say the free schools are helping... Why would anyone want their child taught in a school where the staff are not qualified teachers?
As an important tool in socialisation I would expect that those with the responsibility of moulding minds was competent.

But many are better than teachers
and getting better results.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

But many are better than teachers
and getting better results.

I think we both know that's rubbish...
Next you will be telling me G4S are better than the police and nurses don't need to be qualified....

[Kizzy]

I disagree about cynicism, I would say a certain degree is healthy, to probe, question and examine is good and shows an enquiring mind.
Too many now are spoon fed information without stopping to ponder whether or not they agree... This is the silent majority.
The saddest thing I saw was an article online from the BBC ' Do conspiracy theories undermine democracy?'....
Which in a nutshell said it was undemocratic to question authority, how orwellian is that?
We must maintain cynicism! it is what separates us from drones.
what's next to be called into question honesty?.... oh, we already have when so called 'whistleblowers' are pilloried for informing on bad practice, illegal activity and fraud.

[Roy Mars III]

what is considered civilized though? I would think that most people have different answers to what a civilized society is and would be.

[Kizzy]

It does...The 1% may have all the wealth but at what cost to future generations?

[Kizzy]

I don't know any utterly perverted, one eyed, brainless, uber destructive, hate fuelled radical feminists.
I know a quite a few people whose views are a bit cock-eyed.

[Stu]

Something tells me some sort of skewered personal experience must have come in to play to spurn the truth in to including feminists in a post about various bugbears that are holding humans back that much. It's been a bizarre, recurring theme in a few of his posts now ...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Stu

Something tells me some sort of skewered personal experience must have come in to play to spurn the truth in to including feminists in a post about various bugbears that are holding humans back that much. It's been a bizarre, recurring theme in a few of his posts now ...

Yes Some
Women Destroy Men


Of Course many Men
Destroy Women as well




Life In The Fast Lane

[Nedusa]

Well at least if we learn to stop cutting people's heads off in the name of worshipping invisible people living in clouds then that might be a step forward ....!!!

[Kizzy]

Stop dragging it back to extremism, a few indoctrinated individuals do not account for the whole of so called civilised society.
That was a political issue, the fact that that act was seen as so utterly abhorrent is a sign of civility?

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Stop dragging it back to extremism, a few indoctrinated individuals do not account for the whole of so called civilised society.
That was a political issue, the fact that that act was seen as so utterly abhorrent is a sign of civility?

Sorry , you can try and label this as the actions of a few but in a truly enlightened and evolved society NOBODY would undertake actions of this depravity for any reason.

Until the last individual moves on none of us can truly move on.

[Kizzy]

You will never have cross cultural civility as the entrenched socialisation is totally different.
Besically there is no level playing field.
That's not even taking the religious element into account.