[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Hi jet, I accept you hold your strong views as to Jim and I would never say you are wrong to have those views.
You have your opinion of him and that is your right.

I myself don't care at all for a lot of what he has done and said in the past and indeed I am surprised that I have come to even like him as a housemate.
I have though because he is doing exactly what you say,controlling himself in the main, which is something he 'never' could have done in the past.

For me however, how he is contolling his temper,I haven't a clue while he is around the vicious and miserable and awful Linda Nolan,who is also trying to push all buttons to make him look really bad herself.
Even I would have likely flared up at her by now bigtime already.

Thanks Joey, I always respect and value your opinions.
For me, they are pushing each others buttons. Jim isn't blameless here. I'd love to know what is behind him saying to her last night for the 3rd time in a week "Like another vat of wine dear?" before turning his back on her. Something to do with their past, I suppose?
Their spats are quite intriguing and a lot more interesting than the cringe worthy showmance so its all good.

[Kizzy]

Yep I noticed that, he snipes then when she bites it will be woah!!!! overemotional female alert... pfft.

[Z]

Tonight was iiiinteresting, Jim reveals he hasn't changed at all and is playing a game... I don't know if I'm put him off in the house because I didn't like him before, or if I still like him because he's playing a blinder so far

[Cherie]

I think he meant he is biting his tongue rather than playing a game. He went to luisa and gave her good advice, where was everyone else?

[Z]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think he meant he is biting his tongue rather than playing a game. He went to luisa and gave her good advice, where was everyone else?

Lionel gave her a hug, Linda gave her a hug, Dappy made up with her and Lionel said he was glad they'd made up. Plenty of people cared about Luisa's hysterics. In this case, I would say Jim biting his tongue is him playing a game. He knows he'll be reviled if he lets anything slip.

[Patricia4]

Nothing wrong with Jim its people like Linda that is turning people against him and some are that thick they are talking it all in like Sam.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zee

Lionel gave her a hug, Linda gave her a hug, Dappy made up with her and Lionel said he was glad they'd made up. Plenty of people cared about Luisa's hysterics. In this case, I would say Jim biting his tongue is him playing a game. He knows he'll be reviled if he lets anything slip.

What I meant was they didn't offer any advice and try and reconcile the situation and it was afterwards that she and dappy made up

[Z]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What I meant was they didn't offer any advice and try and reconcile the situation and it was afterwards that she and dappy made up

Ah I see, you're right! I think Jim was foolish to admit he was playing a game.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Zee

Lionel gave her a hug, Linda gave her a hug, Dappy made up with her and Lionel said he was glad they'd made up. Plenty of people cared about Luisa's hysterics. In this case, I would say Jim biting his tongue is him playing a game. He knows he'll be reviled if he lets anything slip.

Why is biting his tongue thought of as game playing? maybe Luisa should think before she speaks, perhaps.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think he meant he is biting his tongue rather than playing a game. He went to luisa and gave her good advice, where was everyone else?

That's how I interpreted it too Cherie

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zee

Ah I see, you're right! I think Jim was foolish to admit he was playing a game.

Yes agreed that was stupid!

[Z]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Why is biting his tongue thought of as game playing? maybe Luisa should think before she speaks, perhaps.

He admitted to Luisa he is still the chauvinistic woman hater he's always been, but he's not being himself in the house. That is a strategy for survival in the game, he's playing a character to avoid being hated.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Zee

He admitted to Luisa he is still the chauvinistic woman hater he's always been, but he's not being himself in the house. That is a strategy for survival in the game, he's playing a character to avoid being hated.

Err he didn't say he was a woman hater.

You are putting your own spin on what he said and meant because you don't like him.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Err he didn't say he was a woman hater.

You are putting your own spin on what he said and meant because you don't like him.

He's one of my favourite house mates..........

I don't remember the exact words, bloody hell

[Kizzy]

His exact words were ' I'm a silly bigot and I'm fake and a tool'.... I think

[Z]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

His exact words were ' I'm a silly bigot and I'm fake and a tool'.... I think

No Kizzy you're putting your own spin on his words because you don't like him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The guy explicitly admitted he is not being himself in the house because he's still the same person he's always been, he hasn't changed at all. I wasn't sure if he had reformed or not but now we have confirmation that he is the same. Unsure if I admire him for his game playing or hate him because he's despicable.

[joeysteele]

Well for me and as I said above, I am surprised how much I like him in the BB house.
The minute he does,( if he does), explode at Linda then I will really like him even more after that.

[Kazanne]

I like him too,hew made me laugh so much tonight when he was doing that accent to Dappy,I think he jokes a lot and it is taken the wrong way.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I like him too,hew made me laugh so much tonight when he was doing that accent to Dappy,I think he jokes a lot and it is taken the wrong way.

It was funny Kazanne, he does have good humour to be fair.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Zee

No Kizzy you're putting your own spin on his words because you don't like him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The guy explicitly admitted he is not being himself in the house because he's still the same person he's always been, he hasn't changed at all. I wasn't sure if he had reformed or not but now we have confirmation that he is the same. Unsure if I admire him for his game playing or hate him because he's despicable.

You have summed it up very well. It came as no surprise to me as I've been saying throughout this whole thread that he hasn't changed and was obviously keeping a tight lid on himself. He said tonight also that he is still a male chauvinist pig - I dislike that type no matter how 'funny' they are. I think he's despicable, but at least he admitted he wasn't being himself which is a plus point.

[Kizzy]

It must go over my head that humour joey and kaz haha! I may have used a smidge of artistic licence in my summary of his convo with luisa zee.....That said if you find what he said despicable, I'm not going to argue

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It must go over my head that humour joey and kaz haha! I may have used a smidge of artistic licence in my summary of his convo with luisa zee.....That said if you find what he said despicable, I'm not going to argue

It went right over my head too. I couldn't make any sense out of any of it. Lee was in the kitchen too and he didn't even break a smile. Dappy was laughing just to please Jim, I think.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Zee

He's one of my favourite house mates..........

I don't remember the exact words, bloody hell

So you paraphrase him? you should (if quoting someone) get the exact words right.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by jet

You have summed it up very well. It came as no surprise to me as I've been saying throughout this whole thread that he hasn't changed and was obviously keeping a tight lid on himself. He said tonight also that he is still a male chauvinist pig - I dislike that type no matter how 'funny' they are. I think he's despicable, but at least he admitted he wasn't being himself which is a plus point.

Well I dislike feminists but that doesn't mean I can't like one or even support one if she entered the house, live and let live, we are all different and have different opinions, we should learn to accept and respect others opinions, shame Dappy and Luisa can't do that.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

His exact words were ' I'm a silly bigot and I'm fake and a tool'.... I think

And he still should win CBB.