[smeagol]

they are all the new kids at school. the popular ones have made there barricades. and the different ones are being picked on and bansished but mainly looked down upon cause the others think they are better. some are trying desperatly hard to fit in the popular gang. some dont like the gang but wont speak up as they dont want to be targeted.
its no different to school lol
is it bullying yeah of course it is .but its nowhere near the deana bb level of bullying. now that was so bad, this is more picking on bullying than anything. its nothing to be worked up about just people trying to dominate others.

[chuff me dizzy]

100% yes ,and i hate that overused word,but in this case it is happening

[HBB1508]

Yes I think it's bullying the total pack mentality and I find it quite uncomfortable to watch and feel for Jale and Christopher as they are both being bullied imo.

[Niamh.]

I think there's definitely something like it going on yeah from last nights HLs and it seems that a few of the HMs are seeing it but aren't doing enough about it, probably for fear of being turned on

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I haven't watched any of the balm-gate stuff yet but I certainly think I would describe Pauline as a psychological bully..it's not just that she targets people and tries to turn others against them because that's quite often done..it's more that she tries to justify things to them by trying to persuade them that it's all their fault/that if they were 'better' people then these things wouldn't happen to them..a purposeful dumbing down of self-esteem in someone is something I feel is bullying...Helen..?..I've not seen anything that could be described as bullying yet..

It's like when people in an abusive relationship get made to feel like they're not good enough for anyone.

How do you think this situation would be perceived if Pauline was a man?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lily.

It's like when people in an abusive relationship get made to feel like they're not good enough for anyone.

How do you think this situation would be perceived if Pauline was a man?

Yeah, that's a good comparison and spot on. Pauline likes to beat people down to make herself feel great and powerful in herself

[InOne]

It's weird how a lot seem to fall for it. I imagine Pauline's good at picking up peoples insecurities and using them to her advantage. She completely homes in on what she thinks are peoples faults. A bit like a Psychopath does.

[lily.]

Good observation Joe.

[Livia]

Jale has been bullied, yes. Pauline started it and then a succession of other people took up the cause. Helen is good at it, she's done it before. As someone with previous experience of bullying, I have to say I recognise what's happening with a certain amount of horror.

I was disappointed to see someone say that Jale isn't being bullied because she "gives as good as she gets". Like, if you have a modicum of fight in you, people have free reign to treat you really badly because it doesn't look like it hurts you. I bet when I was at school there were people who said, she's not being bullied, she's not broken enough yet.

[Niamh.]

Good post Livia

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Jale has been bullied, yes. Pauline started it and then a succession of other people took up the cause. Helen is good at it, she's done it before. As someone with previous experience of bullying, I have to say I recognise what's happening with a certain amount of horror.

I was disappointed to see someone say that Jale isn't being bullied because she "gives as good as she gets". Like, if you have a modicum of fight in you, people have free reign to treat you really badly because it doesn't look like it hurts you. I bet when I was at school there were people who said, she's not being bullied, she's not broken enough yet.

Agree completely.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think there's definitely something like it going on yeah from last nights HLs and it seems that a few of the HMs are seeing it but aren't doing enough about it, probably for fear of being turned on

Have you seen the video and the slug comment today ?

[Kizzy]

She has the potential, and we're all willing her to just slap them down (verbally)
Nip it in the bud jale, it's not going to get any better.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Jale has been bullied, yes. Pauline started it and then a succession of other people took up the cause. Helen is good at it, she's done it before. As someone with previous experience of bullying, I have to say I recognise what's happening with a certain amount of horror.

I was disappointed to see someone say that Jale isn't being bullied because she "gives as good as she gets". Like, if you have a modicum of fight in you, people have free reign to treat you really badly because it doesn't look like it hurts you. I bet when I was at school there were people who said, she's not being bullied, she's not broken enough yet.

What a fantastic post.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Have you seen the video and the slug comment today ?

No, I can't watch the videos, they're geoblocked for me

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No, I can't watch the videos, they're geoblocked for me

Maybe on tonights show

[Patricia4]

Yes and Im feeling sorry for Jale right now.

[Vicky.]

Having now seen last nights and tonights show, yes. I do think it is bullying.

[smudgie]

Yes.

Not even one to one, so it is worse.

[lily.]

Helen should be ejected. People have been ejected for less.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

From the footage weve seen yeah its bullying.

Unfortuneatly we don't know why they have such a bad reaction to her as we have seen no reason.

Obviously Jale is doing a lot of stuff that's annoying everyone but the show is not showing this in the edit.

Lets be honest a bully/race gate is needed for ratings sake so that's what were getting in the highlight package.

Helen though? No edit needed. Pure ****.

[lily.]

The producers are clearly aware of it though, as they're using the footage in the HLs...

I'm not finding it entertaining in the slightest though. Helen is an awful person.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

From the footage weve seen yeah its bullying.

Unfortuneatly we don't know why they have such a bad reaction to her as we have seen no reason.

Obviously Jale is doing a lot of stuff that's annoying everyone but the show is not showing this in the edit.

Lets be honest a bully/race gate is needed for ratings sake.

You think she's bringing it on herself? I can't imagine what you think she could possibly have done in a week and a half to justify her treatment. She in there with a bunch of bitches.

[lily.]

The fact that they hunt in packs makes it even worse.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You think she's bringing it on herself? I can't imagine what you think she could possibly have done in a week and a half to justify her treatment. She in there with a bunch of bitches.

She got the slugsworth tag on her first night too IIRC..all because she apparently rolled her eyes at pauline?