[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Achilles

http://instagram.com/missderry2013

Woo, thank you, hadn't seen this.

Tell you what though, not to be nasty but I couldn't help but observe her fella, he must be the worlds nicest guy or hung like a horse to punch so far above his weight, good on him.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

Woo, thank you, hadn't seen this.

Tell you what though, not to be nasty but I couldn't help but observe her fella, he must be the worlds nicest guy or hung like a horse to punch so far above his weight, good on him.

Or maybe Ashleigh is attracted to the person inside and doesn't judge on looks?

[MB.]

...or maybe she's just sexually attracted to him? He's not a bad looking guy, after all

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by MB&U

...or maybe she's just sexually attracted to him? He's not a bad looking guy, after all

Ashleigh's not that bad looking either

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Or maybe Ashleigh is attracted to the person inside and doesn't judge on looks?

I wasn't dissing his looks, he looks like an average fella and like I said fair play to him.

It's just not often you see supermodels with normal guys, it's abit of banter, so think before you try and call somebody up on something.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

I wasn't dissing his looks

"he must be the worlds nicest guy or hung like a horse to punch so far above his weight"

You kinda were...

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by MB&U

"he must be the worlds nicest guy or hung like a horse to punch so far above his weight"

You kinda were...

It's a joke.

But was that an insult on his looks or a compliment on Ashleighs? From the outside looking in he has done, whichever angle you approach it from.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

I wasn't dissing his looks, he looks like an average fella and like I said fair play to him.

It's just not often you see supermodels with normal guys, it's abit of banter, so think before you try and call somebody up on something.

You missed my point. The fact that she is with a normal guy shows she isn't obsessed with what people look like and is more interested in what people are like on the inside. This works with friends as well as lovers or partners.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Achilles

You missed my point. The fact that she is with a normal guy shows she isn't obsessed with what people look like and is more interested in what people are like on the inside. This works with friends as well as lovers or partners.

Bad use of that smiley then mate, and bad comprehension on understanding the use of mine, you'd have to be quite the twat to say something like I did in a serious manner. Though I doubt I'll be forgetting any time soon that you perceived it that way.

Looks aren't important in any kind of relationship and nor should they be.

[AarynGriesfan]

Originally Posted by karl100589

This one Is the worst to me:

oh yikes this is truly an awful thing to say!

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Jamezall

Using a term for gay as a derogatory insult - it may not be blatant but I would still class it as 'casual' homophobia.
As a society we no longer deem casual racism appropriate (thank God), why should homophobia be any less of an issue in 2014?

I'm not offended by it, most other gay people shouldn't be offended by it. She should use another word but she's clearly not homophobic since she was close to mark in the house...

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

oh yikes this is truly an awful thing to say!

Why do you think she bullied Christopher? Why does she hate Ashleigh so much? Remember when she mocked her accent?

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Firewire

I'm not offended by it, most other gay people shouldn't be offended by it. She should use another word but she's clearly not homophobic since she was close to mark in the house...

Mark was a nasty bitch. That can override any prejudice when a person chooses to be friends with nasty people like herself.

[Creggle]

Don't think Helen has a prejudice against the Irish tbh, she'd have to be as shallow as me to ever think like that, right?

Don't think she actually homes in on people who are nasty and instantly befriends them either, she's not that single minded.

[fitz2k2]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I'm not a Helen fan, and those posts definitely are out of order, but I'd say she's definitely not homophobic, considering her close friendship with Mark.

why would she be that way where millions of people watch her on big brother?If she said anything like that on T.V all hell will break loose. She knows that and def wouldn't ruin the chance of leaving the house.

[AarynGriesfan]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Why do you think she bullied Christopher? Why does she hate Ashleigh so much? Remember when she mocked her accent?

I never realy thought about it that way but it makes sense now. I just thought she was an awful person to everyone. And I just recently found out that Christopher was irish!

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

I never realy thought about it that way but it makes sense now. I just thought she was an awful person to everyone. And I just recently found out that Christopher was irish!

She hated Jale and called her a slug.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

Don't think Helen has a prejudice against the Irish tbh, she'd have to be as shallow as me to ever think like that, right?

Don't think she actually homes in on people who are nasty and instantly befriends them either, she's not that single minded.

She said another Irish dog and called Ireland incest ville. If that's not prejudiced against Irish people what is?
She does be friends with nasty people and doesn't like "mother Theresa" types. She hated Jale until Jale started to show her nasty side. She hated Kimberly until Kimberly started to show her nasty side. She hated Pav until he started to show his nasty side. To get into Helen's gang, you need to show a nasty side. If you don't you are the target of the nasty gang. She is a bully and a horrible person. She maintains that she is nice and loyal to her friends etc. Yeah, to her nasty friends, not to people in general. That is why she hates charity and nice people. She loved Steven because Steven was the ultimate nasty scumbag. When Marlon was kicked out of the nasty gang she wasn't bothered because he was never as nasty as the others to begin with. The closest people to her are the ones who are the most nasty. The ones she hates are the ones who are nice, or "boring" as she and her gang refer to them.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Achilles

She said another Irish dog and called Ireland incest ville. If that's not prejudiced against Irish people what is?
She does be friends with nasty people and doesn't like "mother Theresa" types. She hated Jale until Jale started to show her nasty side. She hated Kimberly until Kimberly started to show her nasty side. She hated Pav until he started to show his nasty side. To get into Helen's gang, you need to show a nasty side. If you don't you are the target of the nasty gang. She is a bully and a horrible person. She maintains that she is nice and loyal to her friends etc. Yeah, to her nasty friends, not to people in general. That is why she hates charity and nice people. She loved Steven because Steven was the ultimate nasty scumbag. When Marlon was kicked out of the nasty gang she wasn't bothered because he was never as nasty as the others to begin with. The closest people to her are the ones who are the most nasty. The ones she hates are the ones who are nice, or "boring" as she and her gang refer to them.

Ash & Winston aren't nasty people, they're normal in that regard. I won't spin it like they are saints because they aren't, but they're nothing like Helen. Kimbot and Jale I'll agree with because they joined her on a few of her crusades, but Ash and Winston have never helped her bully someone, they just laugh AT how angry and OTT she gets, not at the fact she's being nasty to someone.

[lostalex]

wow, she sounds like every single teenager ever.

[Ammi]

..wow it's hard to know where to start with this or even understand it..this is Twitter stuff from a while ago/years ago right if I'm understanding it..?...


..ok, well it's not really a secret that I'm no Helen fan for various reasons but it's kind of important not to get lost in it all as well...I remember when Alex Rose was in the house..I think she was a similar age to Ashleigh, 18/19yrs..?..and toward the final it started to 'heat up' as these things always do and there was stuff that non Alex supporters were posting about things she had done when she was 14yrs old/stuff that made her look bad as a person and I know it happens but it's something I personally think is wrong..we have to either 'bring it all into the house' and equally for every housemate or only judge with the time in there..ok I know some things are hard to overlook and we shouldn't overlook them either because they're far too serious and homophobia/xenophobia and racism (which is also being said on DS because of some tweets..)...are some of these things and these tweets look quite damning...and ok she wasn't 14yrs old when she made them either but there is no 'age' where we can't do or say something wrong and dumb in our life, it's just that for Helen and BB housemates in general..the nature of what they've put themselves out there for by going into the house means more that things will 'come back to haunt them' type thing....but then if they had lived these perfect lives would they ever be going into the house..?..


..anyway, I think it's also important here to not only look at what the words are but at the person who said those words and the terminology she uses in a lot of things she says and what is just 'normal' for her... and yes that terminology insults and offends and yes it's wrong but for some things, I don't believe there is any thought or the thought there should be behind those words...I don't think there was any homophobic/xenophobic intent etc...it's just what Helen does/how she acts/reacts etc and yeah how she attacks as well if something has annoyed her and these words and phrases are just really nothing more or less than we've heard all through the series and for me don't show her up or as the trendy phrase is..'show her true colours' any more or any less than we've seen Helen throughout...Helen has her own terminology, it is a problem for her, it is unacceptable and she does have to learn to filter..if she had said these same words in the house then I have no doubt an official warning or a possible ejection even may have occurred but it's only for a few months in her life when she's going to be 'policed' like that so her life is never going to go well and she's always going to feel hostility from people unless she learns self policing..whether she'll ever do that, none of us will know...that is and will always be a big issue for her but is she racist/homophobic/xenophobic etc...?..no, I don't think that she is at all..I really don't....she just has no awareness of any boundaries of behaviour....

[coffee]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Helly Woo Woo

hahahahahhhahaha

[Beso]

id have her booted out for these comments...get a grip bb.

[FlippingEck]

People need to get a grip and find something to do... Good lord.. trolling 5 years back to silly comments made on twitter??? get out more... get a life!
I am sure we have all said something that others find offensive.. especially in social media..

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by parmnion

id have her booted out for these comments...get a grip bb.

If she did say these comments (and i question their authenticity) they were said years ago. Did she make these comments in BB house? NO.