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Originally Posted by FlippingEck
I get fed up with hearing people play the bully card. By the reckoning on here, if you have an opinion about someone and have the audacity to voice your opinion openly then you are a bully.. in which case, the house is full of bullies.. as is this forum.
Time to put your adult pants on people.. Helen is not a bully. she is HONEST.
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But what about times when she's had people gathered around her and instigated isolation of another housemate, like the vid in the OP of this thread, or when she was stood in a corner claiming Jale was listening to their conversation just because she was sat in the same room. Making up vile names like Wasp and Slugsworth to depersonify them is a typical bully technique.
Some of her other behaviour didn't amount to bullying imo, but did show bullying behaviour. Her treatment of Chris on his first night along with Pauline was intended isolation based on one bloody sentence in his vt. Her personal attack to Matthew can surely be seen by anyone as more than "just being honest", she was stood over him in anger to intimidate him. Her, Kim and Jale cornering her in front of the whole group was very intimidating and isolating, which is exactly why her friends (Winston and Mark) stood up to her. Her incessant namecalling to a whole group of people about Danielle and making fun of her religion was definitely more than "just being honest". To repeat, I don't think these latter examples amounted to bullying, but were certainly typical bullying behaviour, which is exactly why BB had to warn her at times - she had to be stopped before she went too far.
I don't think voicing an opinion is bullying. For example, when she said she thinks Chris is two-faced, I don't think that was bullying. When she says Christopher is annoying sometimes, it's not bullying. It's just the way she goes about being angry/annoyed/disliking someone like the examples I gave above, it is NOT simply "being honest".
Edit: also, as other posters have identified, she has been found to lie about what she or others have said quite a few times now. When she went to the DR to complain about what she'd said about Kim being a tramp, and BB asked if she regretted what she said, she said no and laughed, almost suggesting she did remember saying it.
Further, she has twisted some things that people have said to encourage more disfavour towards them from other housemates:
Ashleigh: I feel like I've made some evil plan
Helen: I've made an evil plan and I'm so glad it came together (apologies if this is misquoted!)
The conversation between Chris and Ashleigh... They described her as a nightmare on paper but actually really nice, and Ashleigh said she'd given people at school lots of chances
Her conversation with Chris the other night. They were having a mutual conversation about going abroad, and then she said she felt ugly, so Chris said he thought she was sexy. They laughed, she said thanks, it was all amiable. She made it out to Pav and Ash like he creeped up to her with a creepy voice and just said it out of the blue and that she was all shocked and said "ok then :|" which is definitely not honest!
Ash,
We all discuss things many without giving a reason or an explanation as to why we feel the way we do. These are my reasons. What is a rewatch? I thought this was a forum for us to give our opinions?
PRINCESS ASHLEIGH 
I don't believe Ashleigh was bullied, and if she was why should I care is the basis of my point. No relevance to Helen.
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