[GoldHeart]

these Fleur vs Lauren debates are old now
we're just going round in circles

it was between Lauren & Andrea so why not be mad at the judges for not letting it go to deadlock??? instead of dragging Fleur into it who had nothing to do with it!! she got 1 of the highest votes along with Ben straight into the final !!!

Ben & Fleur have never been in the bottom 2 !! so by your logic you might aswell say would Ben survive or get same treatment as Lauren?

[Mystic Mock]

Ben and Fleur are heavily favoured, and would've only survived off their looks at first, until Simon rigged things in their favour.

And Andrea was the natural winner in this series until he also got derailed.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Ben and Fleur are heavily favoured, and would've only survived off their looks at first, until Simon rigged things in their favour.

And Andrea was the natural winner in this series until he also got derailed.

In your opinion.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Lauren came 4th, and could've been 3rd in the votes and that was with all the derailing that was thrown her way, I think the public showed that they cared for Lauren, would the public have shown Fleur the same courtesy if she was receiving Lauren's treatment?

And every poster that I saw on here, DS, Facebook, and Twitter that was supporting Nicholas last year was from Scotland.

There you go again with irrelevant hypothetical questions...

And just because every poster that you saw on a forum was Scottish and supporting Nicholas does not mean that he finished in second place because he got the most votes That's like saying every single poster you saw on here that supported Lauren was white, therefore all her fanbase must be white

[Brother Leon]

Was walking to work and I saw a huge double decker bus that had her picture and "Vote Fleur" on. I was going to take a pic, but I didn't want to look like a fanboy lol


Edit: ffs. Thought this was her fan thread lol

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Ben and Fleur are heavily favoured, and would've only survived off their looks at first, until Simon rigged things in their favour.

And Andrea was the natural winner in this series until he also got derailed.

for years people have been saying the whole show is rigged so why are you only accusing Simon of rigging things ?? just because both his acts are in the final is that why??

here we go again with looks if Fleur & Ben are just favored for their looks and if the public are soo shallow then why did Chloe Jasmin get kicked out very very early ?? she was a pretty girl with class

and why didn't Jack last longer then?? seen as people fancied him

just accept that people like listening to Ben sing & perform and they like listening to Fleur sing & perform

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Was walking to work and I saw a huge double decker bus that had her picture and "Vote Fleur" on. I was going to take a pic, but I didn't want to look like a fanboy lol


Edit: ffs. Thought this was her fan thread lol

She will have been on that bus

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Hayllelujah

In your opinion.

Is spamming the same post on every thread allowed on here or something? And I'm sorry but Lauren being on early nearly every week while Ben's been on last twice and given huge praise for subpar performances imo (are you happy now?) and Fleur being on late every week is not just an opinion but shock horror it's fact, your worst nightmare it seems.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Hayllelujah

There you go again with irrelevant hypothetical questions...

And just because every poster that you saw on a forum was Scottish and supporting Nicholas does not mean that he finished in second place because he got the most votes That's like saying every single poster you saw on here that supported Lauren was white, therefore all her fanbase must be white

That's a silly comparison because people don't go branding themselves on the Internet as white, black, asian, or hispanic or whatever ethnicity that you can think of.

And with Lauren she seemed to get a really young male support base from what I can see.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

for years people have been saying the whole show is rigged so why are you only accusing Simon of rigging things ?? just because both his acts are in the final is that why??

here we go again with looks if Fleur & Ben are just favored for their looks and if the public are soo shallow then why did Chloe Jasmin get kicked out very very early ?? she was a pretty girl with class

and why didn't Jack last longer then?? seen as people fancied him

just accept that people like listening to Ben sing & perform and they like listening to Fleur sing & perform

Chloe was not very pretty.

And Jack was clearly derailed, on early every week, horrific song choices that didn't suit him, and he seemed to have a massive falling-out with his mentor so they turned on him even more, if it wasn't for his looks he probably would've gone when he performed Straight Up.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Chloe was not very pretty.

And Jack was clearly derailed, on early every week, horrific song choices that didn't suit him, and he seemed to have a massive falling-out with his mentor so they turned on him even more, if it wasn't for his looks he probably would've gone when he performed Straight Up.

you cant say Chloe wasn't pretty i know its a matter of taste but she wasn't exactly ugly come on and she had class and the media was out to get her
they printed all kinds of bad things about her

Stephanie was another pretty girl and ended up getting death threats whats that all about when she was a sweet polite girl

and Jack still got supported because of his "looks" but i always found him boring his voice was nothing special and his performances were dull as hell

[Mystic Mock]

Jack needed songs from artists like Coldplay, Radiohead, George Ezra, Imagine Dragons.

Steph imo was the prettiest girl of the series, but she was a really bad vocalist that Simon knew not to really push her forward.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Jack needed songs from artists like Coldplay, Radiohead, George Ezra, Imagine Dragons.

Steph imo was the prettiest girl of the series, but she was a really bad vocalist that Simon knew not to really push her forward.

i know people think Simon runs the whole show and yeah clearly he's the producer but he wasn't in charge of Steph!! she was mentored by Cheryl
so why not say Cheryl didn't push her? plus i thought Steph vocally was good

it doesn't make a difference what song Jack got he was dull dull dull
and when he tried to be more exciting it came across weird and awkward (being bitten by a pretend vampire while he sings ) lol

[Mystic Mock]

That Bleeding Love performance was a classic case of sabotage imo, he is no Leona Lewis.

And Cheryl didn't push Steph then, either way pushing her would've been bad because she was car crash TV every week to me away from her looks.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

That Bleeding Love performance was a classic case of sabotage imo, he is no Leona Lewis.

And Cheryl didn't push Steph then, either way pushing her would've been bad because she was car crash TV every week to me away from her looks.

i laughed immediately when i first heard he got Leona's Bleeding Love
i knew it would be a disaster

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Ben and Fleur are heavily favoured, and would've only survived off their looks at first, until Simon rigged things in their favour.

And Andrea was the natural winner in this series until he also got derailed.

Survived off their looks? Weren't you the one saying that women hated Lauren becuse they were jealous of her looks? which is it, you survive on your looks or you're hated because of your looks? you can't have it both ways Mock

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Survived off their looks? Weren't you the one saying that women hated Lauren becuse they were jealous of her looks? which is it, you survive on your looks or you're hated because of your looks? you can't have it both ways Mock

surely you must understand now why im annoyed and confused ?
Mock contradicts soo much it makes no sense
ive even used examples of goodlooking people being voted out early meaning clearly looks dont always help people

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hope she is not too depressed this week....

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Survived off their looks? Weren't you the one saying that women hated Lauren becuse they were jealous of her looks? which is it, you survive on your looks or you're hated because of your looks? you can't have it both ways Mock

Lauren's in the worst category of the looks department to try and get votes which is the pretty young white girl category.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Lauren's in the worst category of the looks department to try and get votes which is the pretty young white girl category.

She got 4th place out of 16. How on earth is that he worst category????

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Lauren's in the worst category of the looks department to try and get votes which is the pretty young white girl category.

but she finished in fourth place though!! she's done remarkably well compared to other contestants like poor Paul who left way too early

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Hayllelujah

She got 4th place out of 16. How on earth is that he worst category????

They always go far them types of contestants because it's better to be attractive on TXF than not being attractive on the show, but if you look at it with Lauren, the housewives hated her guts on FB and DS, and the VT's and song choices only ever really made her appeal to a young fanbase and as mainly housewives vote on TXF it killed Lauren's chances of winning off.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

but she finished in fourth place though!! she's done remarkably well compared to other contestants like poor Paul who left way too early

Paul was another one that was treated horrifically for Simon's Overs.

Us Lauren, Jack, and Paul fans have every right to be mad at the fact that every single one of Simon's Overs (yes even Jay and Stevi) was being pushed way more than our faves.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Paul was another one that was treated horrifically for Simon's Overs.

Us Lauren, Jack, and Paul fans have every right to be mad at the fact that every single one of Simon's Overs (yes even Jay and Stevi) was being pushed way more than our faves.

i disagree you seem to think just because Simon runs the show that his acts get favored more which isnt true

plus Jay got slagged down actually! and was called the bully of the house and the public stopped voting for him so he lost support

and nobody took stevi seriously even simon told him one week that his performance was terrible but he supported him still as his wild card but he knew stevi had no chance of winning it was just a laugh and they all kept saying they know he's enjoying himself