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Old 15-12-2014, 10:58 AM #101
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Sky News in its rolling coverage is speaking now to a Sydney Muslim community leader, Jamal Rifi, who says NSW Police are fully aware of the identity of the hostage taker. Rifi says he personally is aware of the man’s identity. The gunman has not yet been named.
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Quote: Scrooge: its one guy in a cafe in sydney. population of oz is around 20,000,000


It's one more incident of a thousand other incidents - but is trivialised, minimised, and marginalised because it is viewed in splendid isolation, separated as it is by space and time, from the other linked incidents.

QUOTE=ArchAngel;7420073]Yes let's keep some perspective or you'll have all manner of conspiracy theorists writing off a huge swathe of the world.[/QUOTE]


My 'conspiracy theory' owes more to 'objectivism' than relativism or solipsism, and though no theory can ever be 'proven' - not even scientific ones - an ever increasing preponderance of substantive evidence does 'justify' my 'theory'.

To ignore given substantive evidence in order to deny the likely probability of a given theory being correct because it does not fit in with your own view is solipsistic because you are - in essence - creating your own reality.

And as for: " you'll have all manner of conspiracy theorists writing off a huge swathe of the world." -- it is not 'conspiracy theorists' who are doing that - it is the Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists whose Master Plan this 'conspiracy theorist' is trying so honestly and passionately to raise awareness of.

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The 49 year old is a Sex Offender and a Iranian


Live CNN America
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The 49 year old is a Sex Offender and a Iranian


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wow

Its a wonder we did not have him over in the UK

sounds like the perfect immigrant profile

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Any updates?

Its on our CNN Ch now
Live from America


And SkyNewsHD.


He is a Loner
and claims he was tortured
his Name is Man Haron Manis

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SAS would've had this guy dead and those hostages free by now.
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I saw that, He had chains around his neck and a sign
He was apparently on bail
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SAS would've had this guy dead and those hostages free by now.

Yes but they may not use them
in this case
no deaths yet
just a confused Iranian
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I saw that, He had chains around his neck and a sign
He was apparently on bail

Yes the Worst type to have
as he has so many Issues


Maybe its best he shoots his own Head
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sniper needs to end this
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Haron Monis is this gunmans name
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Very much an unhinged individual carrying out a lone wolf attack by the sounds of it then
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Very much an unhinged individual carrying out a lone wolf attack by the sounds of it then


Sheikh Man Haron Monis, aged 49.

http://news.sky.com/story/1392286/sy...unman-is-named


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Sheikh Man Haron Monis, aged 49.

http://news.sky.com/story/1392286/sy...unman-is-named


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That's the hat/so called bandana he was wearing in the cafe
he gonna be put away for a long time..

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5 or 6 hostages just escaped
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The hostages are uploading videos to you tube under the direction of the hostage taker.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ea1_1418646267
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That brings the total of Hostages escaped to about 11-ish
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One of the hostages resembles the characteristics of the person beind the gunman and has stopped him
He is not the man behind it and he is going free
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Some hostages have been filmed running from the cafe with hands in the air, towards police officers.
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My colleague Helen Davidson is at the scene. She reports:

A few minutes ago there was a loud bang and a group of people ran out of the cafe, including at least one man with his hands up.

Other reporters say they saw five to seven people who looked like hostages. I can confirm at least one amid a group who might have been police.

It is not know exactly what the cause of the bang was – whether it was gunshot, or flash bangs, or an explosion.

The scene appears to be calm again now.
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Something is happening- Loud gunfire
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