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Remembering Kerry
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
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Remembering Kerry
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,493
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I go with Jack_ insofar as the whole scene without the wording was uncomfortable and once Helen saw she had him,(she did say he was playing right into her hands),for whatever had gone on with the pair of them in the house that was never shown,she really went for it.
She is, I have said it many times, in arguments both formidable and relentless.
She will not stop and if she has come to the point where she does not even like the person she is arguing with,then she really goes for it.
I said the whole scene, how it played out and the wording she used were unacceptable, wrong and deserved condemnation and the warning she did get.
I would have told her that to her face too had I been a housemate in there.
He may well have been wrong to break confidences in the house she had talked to him about,he was wrong to blame her for Jade going, Nikki shouted for Jade to be nominated too, however Brian was sucking up to Nikki on issues while blaming Helen for everything.
That argument came about and to the head it did, for lots of reasons between Helen and Brian, some reasons seen and others not shown us by BB too.
That is a fact, not an excuse for her actions in that argument because there are no excuses and as Jack_ says, it was totally wrong and he is completely in my view right.
In some ways, they both got what they likely wanted from that really uncomfortable thing to watch.
Helen got Brian to the point where he realised he would likely never get one over on her and she was able to bring him down.
Things like that are never nice or good to see against anyone.
However,from it, Brian too got what maybe he was wanting in a way too, he managed to let her show how overpowering and overbearing she could be, he also then was given his opportunity to leave with his head ,in his thinking, held higher than had he walked out from the diary room.
He really had wanted to go since Jade went out,this helped give him the chance to do so and lay all the blame on someone else.
So in that sense, she also played into his hands too.
She never said he was a rapist/murderer,she said when angry he looked like one.
I still would not and could not defend even that terminology but he really should have walked away,gone and talked to others he said he was comfortable with and left her fuming and going on and on.
Hindsight however is a wonderful thing,as I say I go with Jack_ almost all the way but part of me, while 100% condemning Helen for the wording and goading, do feel he also in part used this to give more credibility to his absconding from the house too.
He had been difficult in the bunker and house most of his time there, except while in connection with Jade after the 2nd day in the house, he was at odds with Nikki in the bunker, with Helen in the house and then with Marc too and then back to Helen again after Jade went.
Helen was much the same as she was in her series last year, both Brian and Nikki knew that and both would have been wiser to either ignore her other than for BB tasks and missions,rather than really engage with her.
Likewise she should have done the same with them to avoid as much conflict as was possible to do so.
It is not at all as if all 3 of these people.,ad no idea what all of them were really like before they returned to the BB experience.
Anyway the long and short of what I am saying here is that I do think Jack_ has made valid observations and points as to this unfortunate event in this series of BB.
Last edited by joeysteele; 27-06-2015 at 06:59 PM.
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