[Parmy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are joking, those ridiculous orange marches are pathetic.
They are used to taunt and bait Catholic resident areas and are very much a put down to the Catholic communities.

It is all well and good celebrating history, however to want to parade pompously down the opposite sides areas is in my view nothing other than provocative.

If they got present no go areas opened up to the orange marches again, it would open up doors that should have been totally sealed ages ago.

It doeant support terrorism though..

Also the republicans march as well, but they are usually in memory of a terrorist like the james connolly one held annually in edinburgh

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It doeant support terrorism though..

Also the republicans march as well, but they are usually in memory of a terrorist like the james connolly one held annually in edinburgh

Quite right. Republicans also have marches to commemorate the Easter Rising, the IRA Hunger Strikers, Republican Culture etc.

The Protestant Orange parade commemorating the battle of the boyne is the biggest, and before the Troubles many a Catholic brought their kids along for a good day out at the festivities. I went as a kid, and I brought my kids along with our Protestant friends. It wasn't until the Troubles that it all changed.

The reason the Orangemen parade near Catholic areas is because that was their traditional route when those areas were actually Protestant areas (and it is just a few areas). Their argument is that it is the Queens Highway and we have always walked this way, why should we have to re - route. Silly really. The Catholics feel the Protestants are taunting them by continuing to march nearby. Also silly really.
As far as I know it's been mainly sorted out by some re - routing and Orange bands ceasing playing if they still pass a Catholic area.

It's all been blown out of proportion by a few contentious issues over the years. All parades, Republican and Loyalist, pass off peacefully as a rule. It's just a question of each side respecting each others culture.

[Stu]

James Connolly wasn't a terrorist. To suggest otherwise exhibits an appalling grasp on history, and it's contextualization. That's a shocking, embarrassing suggestion to make, and I can't help but ponder what road that suggestion leads down in your mind.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are joking, those ridiculous orange marches are pathetic.
They are used to taunt and bait Catholic resident areas and are very much a put down to the Catholic communities.

It is all well and good celebrating history, however to want to parade pompously down the opposite sides areas is in my view nothing other than provocative.

If they got present no go areas opened up to the orange marches again, it would open up doors that should have been totally sealed ages ago.

I take it you have seen them in person?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I take it you have seen them in person?

Yes, the orange marches I have always considered pointless.

I actually think they look ridiculous too strutting about.

I have seen a good few actually when my Grandmother has taken me from her home in the South to visit friends/family in the north.

Does that answer your question at all or are more likely irrelevant comments to be forthcoming from you.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are joking, those ridiculous orange marches are pathetic.
They are used to taunt and bait Catholic resident areas and are very much a put down to the Catholic communities.

It is all well and good celebrating history, however to want to parade pompously down the opposite sides areas is in my view nothing other than provocative.

If they got present no go areas opened up to the orange marches again, it would open up doors that should have been totally sealed ages ago.

It's exactly that mindset that causes half the problems. Paranoia that believes everything is a slant against them that leads to the tit for tat attacks - as if the whole world revolves around them - It's a game for fools.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It's exactly that mindset that causes half the problems. Paranoia that believes everything is a slant against them that leads to the tit for tat attacks - as if the whole world revolves around them - It's a game for fools.

we need to end the hate and prejudice

and that is just on tibb

[Stu]

What kind of thought is required to want to march through an area where one of your followers murdered three children, burned them alive in their sleep by throwing a pipe bomb through their window. A 7 year old, a 9 year old, and an 11 year old.

Think about that.

That only makes sense in the mind of a ****ing scumbag.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Stu

What kind of thought is required to want to march through an area where one of your followers murdered three children, burned them alive in their sleep by throwing a pipe bomb through their window. A 7 year old, a 9 year old, and an 11 year old.

Think about that.

That only makes sense in the mind of a ****ing scumbag.

Well if you start off your argument with such hatred and your mind already made up I am afraid I cannot help you with any reply

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Well if you start off your argument with such hatred and your mind already made up I am afraid I cannot help you with any reply

That's alright. Trade on a wind up act and you'll find all your words a dead currency.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

BoJo rallying the troops and thinking only of dear old Blighty

[user104658]

"Spot on Boris" and "Boris is right" surely confirm this as fake AF

[user104658]

"Look every1, dere juss like us!"

[In the Drunk Tank]

Pretty sure they are real - everyone is treating them as such and no one has denied them. I think MPs do actually use Whatsapp quite a lot as well. Boris probably wrote them intending or expecting them to be leaked to show himself as supportive of May because so many people are accusing him of eyeing up the leadership already

[Vicky.]

I think they were sent as he knew that there was going to be stories of his leadership bid. He leaked them himself, or arranged for someone else to. Just too convenient timing

[King Gizzard]

They can be real without being genuine

[Vicky.]

Mind would they really have their whatsapp names as 'Gove MP' and such?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Mind would they really have their whatsapp names as 'Gove MP' and such?

That would just be what whoever screenshotted it had saved them under in their contact list

[King Gizzard]

**** what I said I still think it's 100% bollocks and probably sent from an out of touch adviser

"The kids these days use what's up don't they? They'll buy this. Yep"

[Kizzy]

Yep they saved them as 'gove MP' so as not to confused with 'gove plumber' or 'gove roofer'...

[smudgie]

Anybody have any idea how the principle confidence deal will work out if the deadline of 29th June passes without any agreement in the NI government and they might come back under direct rule?

[Kizzy]

Funny there are murals of snipers in areas where the DUP are popular too...what a coincidence.

[Parmy]

Thats democracy for you kizzy.

[Stu]

Genuinely saw a Bobby Sands one on the side of a chipper once. I'm guessing they didn't see the irony.

The orange crowd are hysterical though. Parade of air hostesses. Their ilk got sent up beautifully in the Trainspotting sequel. Fruit machine patriotism-as-lifestyle.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Stu

Genuinely saw a Bobby Sands one on the side of a chipper once. I'm guessing they didn't see the irony.

The orange crowd are hysterical though. Parade of air hostesses. Their ilk got sent up beautifully in the Trainspotting sequel. Fruit machine patriotism-as-lifestyle.

Stoopid film, it was spud in the book.