[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Odd too how this wasn't meant to be a hate thread but only the positive points on Raph get challenged while the real anti Raph ones are passed over.
It speaks volumes to me.

This isn't a HATE thread Ffs....we are discussing a point regarding Raph...some have positive points and some have negative.
It's a shame you can't debate the negative points instead of brushing it off as HATE.

[Beso]

Still struggling to think of anything viewing worthy ralph has done in 5 weeks.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

This isn't a HATE thread Ffs....we are discussing a point regarding Raph...some have positive points and some have negative.
It's a shame you can't debate the negative points instead of brushing it off as HATE.

Anything that is not seen to be kissing his backside is seen as hate,its pathetic really, but its ok to attack other hm8s ?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Not baity at all,but I should have known you would take it as so,it stands to reason,whoever Raph had befriended would have stood a better chance of being liked on here,now what is baiting about that ? talk about derailing a thread, don't worry so,i do like Raph.i didn't ask why people LIKED him either.

Sadly Kaz..you can't have a decent debate on here about Raph because you just get set upon and labelled a 'hater' or a 'baiter'....your post raised a good point and many have lost that point.
No one is perfect...I don't dislike him either but I get fed up with the way some people think the sun shines out of his arse...even Raph would admit he is not perfect.

[Paula D]

I've only come back to this forum since last year, don't remember Raph from on here but as an overall view I have to say there are "blind" supporters of most of the housemates.

What I mean by that is they refuse to see any negative in their favourites, whereas all people have a bad side. Sooner people realised that and got a sense of humour about it the better.

My favourite at the moment is Izzy, I've loved her since she came in but I can still see her faults. I think she's sticking by Andrew too much and that could be her downfall for example.

I also love Deborah but I'm willing to acknowledge that she's done wrong as well.

It's called adult discussion lads.

So serious in here.

[Beso]

Paula d...what has debs done wrong?

[Littlegreen]

I've just enjoyed Raph as a housemate, I've found his quirks and laugh really cute and endearing. I think he has more layers to his personality than your average BB housemate.

- Raph was Arthur's only support week 1
- Chanelle/Raph friendship
- Joe feud
- Brilliant during fight night (he helped keep Deborah in the bloody house)
- Handled the unwanted attention from Andrew brilliantly
- Always game during tasks and spin the bottle etc
- Brilliant at nominations

[Niamh.]

I think Raph comes across as an interesting guy, I like when he does little analysis like the BB house families one. I think he articulates his points well and is a nice guy. Mostly I want him to do well because of his connection to the forum and because I know him (as far as you can know someone online) and also because he's a genuine fan of the show, doesn't have an agent or any other reality show connections.

I would be equally happy for Debs or Issy to win though

[Parallel]

Raph comes across as a really nice and interesting person. But he hasn't given an insane amount to the series.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think he's a good Housemate. Much better than many in there. I don't think Charlotte is a great housemate, but again it's just my opinion. We all like different things in a housemate. I much prefer a quieter one to a loudmouth.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

All we're seeing now is Sue and Simone. One of the reasons I want them out. Them two screeching isn't my idea of entertaining. I want to see the normal conversations happening around them.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Sadly Kaz..you can't have a decent debate on here about Raph because you just get set upon and labelled a 'hater' or a 'baiter'....your post raised a good point and many have lost that point.
No one is perfect...I don't dislike him either but I get fed up with the way some people think the sun shines out of his arse...even Raph would admit he is not perfect.

Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Paula d...what has debs done wrong?

She let herself get sucked in by Sukvinder the first couple of weeks and fell for the whole race card thing.

She has gotten aggressive and over-reacted and times also.

The run up the stairs was probably the worst thing she's done.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think Raph comes across as an interesting guy, I like when he does little analysis like the BB house families one. I think he articulates his points well and is a nice guy. Mostly I want him to do well because of his connection to the forum and because I know him (as far as you can know someone online) and also because he's a genuine fan of the show, doesn't have an agent or any other reality show connections.

I would be equally happy for Debs or Issy to win though

I agree with this and i think i would still be a fan if i wasnt friends with him but he has been so interesting this season and it's nice to see a normal interesting character on big brother.

I would be really happy if Raph won and i would be happy with anyone else that isn't Ellie/Tom/charlotte/Kieran winning

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Paula D

She let herself get sucked in by Sukvinder the first couple of weeks and fell for the whole race card thing.

She has gotten aggressive and over-reacted and times also.

The run up the stairs was probably the worst thing she's done.

I dont forget her contstanly throwing in the race card ,her violence towards Ellie that night, but say you dont like her for these reasons and you get labelled a racist,I dont like her constantly moaning sister for the drama she caused over a plastic mouse and her stupidity over the Smurfs it cannot be you just don't like them for these reasons , it has to be more ,same every series

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said



Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

But those are opinions. So wishing to oppose certain repetitive views will get a warning?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I dont forget her contstanly throwing in the race card ,her violence towards Ellie that night, but say you dont like her for these reasons and you get labelled a racist,I dont like her constantly moaning sister for the drama she caused over a plastic mouse and her stupidity over the Smurfs it cannot be you just don't like them for these reasons , it has to be more ,same every series

Constantly? Really?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said



Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

A great post overall.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said



Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

Well said Vicky. It's kind of getting tiring when people are just posting "no, don't hate on (insert favourite)". That's not a discussion.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

It is ironic and hilarious those that were/are constantly making hate threads aimed at Raph are now labeling him "boring"!!! HA what would they have ranted about the last 5 weeks without him?!

Hate threads and Ranting....

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Hate threads and Ranting....

Yes and it has been ridiculous.

I'm shocked the warnings are given to those trying to curb the tedium.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I seem to remember you championing Bear and saying the rest were bores so they shouldn't win, Bear was constantly providing entertainment and so on I only remember this as I loved Bear too but found both the OTT love AND the OTT hate for him so amusing and it seems to have stuck in my head.

again, Bear. Nothing else needs to be said



Yup. This has been a huge problem this year and we have tried to sort it but it seems to be getting worse so bans will have to be given soon as warnings aren't working clearly. I do not understand how posting a negative thread is 'purposely picking' or 'looking for faults' or something. And those going from thread to thread just saying, for example, 'another raph hate thread' are really getting annoying now as so many warnings have been given yet are totally ignored. Please just report any of this that you see on the forum as it is a rule break and people need to learn to actually discuss BB rather than shut others down for not worshiping certain housemates tbh

Bear was funny.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Paula D

She let herself get sucked in by Sukvinder the first couple of weeks and fell for the whole race card thing.

She has gotten aggressive and over-reacted and times also.

The run up the stairs was probably the worst thing she's done.

I thought that run was legendary..pity she didnt make the top to be honest.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Hate threads and Ranting....

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

But those are opinions. So wishing to oppose certain repetitive views will get a warning?

When the same few people are going thread to thread saying nothing but 'oh look another raph hate thread' its just spam. It adds nothing at all to the forum and this rule has been in place since before Raph entered the house.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Well said Vicky. It's kind of getting tiring when people are just posting "no, don't hate on (insert favourite)". That's not a discussion.

Indeed.

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Yes and it has been ridiculous.

I'm shocked the warnings are given to those trying to curb the tedium.

Its not trying to 'curb the tedium'. Its trying to shut down those who dislike a housemate that you like. Do you really think that, for example, someone coming into this thread right now and saying 'oh look, the OP is at it again. Another hate thread about raph' is adding anything to the discussion? Can you not see how this is baiting and unnecessary really?!

For the record, its also against the rules the opposite way. If someone was going into every positive raph thread saying 'oh look, yet another love in' and nowt else, that would also be baiting and spam.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Bear was funny.

Yes he was

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Yes and it has been ridiculous.

I'm shocked the warnings are given to those trying to curb the tedium.

EVERYONE has negative threads about them, why should Raph be treat as a special case because he's a member on here ?