[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

thankfully I fell asleep at around 9.15 and missed most6 of the episode but the TL was enthralled

get mr trumpet, shiva

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Rosita and Michonne being left behind is so annoying cos they're such bad bitches

Christian was preg which is why we never saw below her chest when she was sat down I don't know WHY Michonne's just chilling at Alexandria. Is she still meant to be injured from 7x16??

Praying Rosita survives the Whisperers in the TV series so she can get her chance to fight in a war

[Amy Jade]

Daryl was a dick tonight. Felt kinda sorry for the guy he shot at the end.

[Locke.]

They probably shouldn't have used the King's voice for a voiceover in the preview directly after the episode ended if they wanted that cliffhanger to work.

The scene with Gregory at the gate was good, the interaction with Rick and Morales too although I expected him to have a bigger impact if he ever did return. A bit tired of Morgan now tbh.

Need more Negan and Michonne.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Daryl was a dick tonight. Felt kinda sorry for the guy he shot at the end.

I mean, his outrage is sorta understandable? He's an abuse survivor and he was stripped naked and chained in a dark room and forced to eat dog food for god knows how long. I don't agree with how he's just gone wild with shooting the Saviors, and ESPECIALLY not with Morales. That said, Daryl always acts out so it's hard to even guess if his reasons go that deep, or if the showrunners just want him to be 'badass' to be relevant

Morales had so much potential, and if they wanted to have him for like, ten minutes, they should've had him interact with Carol at least. Carol has had the most development and it's a shame Miranda's confirmed dead because they were friends at the start and I just imagine Miranda would be proud of who Carol has become, especially since she was being abused and was still somewhat vulnerable when Miranda left.

I just wish we knew how Morales' family died... and HOW he ended up in Virginia? Surely you would go and find the rest of your family after losing the rest of yours? Gahh I was hoping this would be answered in a bottle episode of sorts/flashbacks.

Also curious as to how the Saviors took him in. What makes Saviors decide if someone's worth killing or worth taking in? They randomly killed all the men of Oceanside unprovoked so why did they think a lone man would be better to take in? And I know Morales was... with the 'bad side' and was clearly not thinking straight but HOW did he not care about Glenn's death?? Granted it's been over a year and a half but that could've been a great conversation point/make Morales question his morals (heuh)

I may invest my Team Delusional/Defiance efforts into another Team for Morales...

[Amy Jade]

Yeah I don't see the point in even reintroducing him for such a small throw part either

[Cal.]

Mess did they kill him already?

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Mess did they kill him already?

you'll have to watch and find out!

[Cal.]

I missed it and didn't record so will watch tomorrow!

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

I missed it and didn't record so will watch tomorrow!

imo it was an ok episode but it just felt a tad boring?

[user104658]

Actually the saviours don't seem to have much of a criteria for who they take in, other than that they won't be defiant. I'm sure they only killed the oceanside men after they tried to fight back / stay independent? And then the offer was given to the women again after all the men were killed, but instead they packed up and left.

Really he was a prime candidate for them. Someone broken and desperate with nothing left, who would happily "be Negan" after being... "saved". Most of their loyal followers seem to be people who were struggling "out there" on their own and were taken in. Easy to manipulate and gain the unquestioning loyalty of someone who has nothing else left and is desperate for somewhere to belong.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Daryl was a dick tonight. Felt kinda sorry for the guy he shot at the end.

Daryl, Morgan the King and Tara are the only ones with the right attitude towards the saviours IMO, they are sticking with the plan that Rick made and even he can't seem to stick to, kill them on sight before they get word back to the other saviours, look what happens every time they don't, it's about surviving yet Jesus seems to forget that..

I've been feeling a bot meh these 2 episodes tbh, infact the king is the only one keeping me interested for now, not feeling the 'Maggie is a leader push' they've shoved in there, yeah we know she is the leader of the hilltop but so much for wanting revenge for Glenn, she goes along with jesus and allows the saviours to live

[Nicky91]

it was a nice episode, i'm slightly worried for ezekiel, but i knew it was a trap by the saviors with their machine guns

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Daryl, Morgan the King and Tara are the only ones with the right attitude towards the saviours IMO, they are sticking with the plan that Rick made and even he can't seem to stick to, kill them on sight before they get word back to the other saviours, look what happens every time they don't, it's about surviving yet Jesus seems to forget that..

I've been feeling a bot meh these 2 episodes tbh, infact the king is the only one keeping me interested for now, not feeling the 'Maggie is a leader push' they've shoved in there, yeah we know she is the leader of the hilltop but so much for wanting revenge for Glenn, she goes along with jesus and allows the saviours to live

Jesus and Rick annoyed me most, Rick is a terrible leader, always has been imo

[user104658]

Well now that they've gone down that route they would need to stick to it... but I actually think their tactic with the saviours is completely wrong from the start. Most of them are just scared, normal people who were struggling to get by and latched onto "daddy Negan" for safety and out of gratitude, and became willing to overlook the bad parts in exchange.

If they had quickly, cleanly and quietly assassinated Negan and a select few of his generals... then offered the rest peace / safety as part of a productive wider community... they would have accepted it with relatively little resistance .

[Nicky91]

but that would mean the end of the series TS

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

but that would mean the end of the series TS

Just the end of this plotline. Though they need Negan around for future storylines I think, but still, you could have them capture Negan and kill his "right hand men" with the same effect.

[Niamh.]

Shane would have had all this s**t sorted last Season

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Josy

Daryl, Morgan the King and Tara are the only ones with the right attitude towards the saviours IMO, they are sticking with the plan that Rick made and even he can't seem to stick to, kill them on sight before they get word back to the other saviours, look what happens every time they don't, it's about surviving yet Jesus seems to forget that..

I've been feeling a bot meh these 2 episodes tbh, infact the king is the only one keeping me interested for now, not feeling the 'Maggie is a leader push' they've shoved in there, yeah we know she is the leader of the hilltop but so much for wanting revenge for Glenn, she goes along with jesus and allows the saviours to live

I agree with Tara to a degree but I don't think her, Zeek nor Morgan would have shot an unarmed and obviously scared teenager (Todd) like that, it just felt cruel to me, who are the bad guys again?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I agree with Tara to a degree but I don't think her, Zeek nor Morgan would have shot an unarmed and obviously scared teenager (Todd) like that, it just felt cruel to me, who are the bad guys again?

Everyones bad though its a must for survival, Daryl was tortured by the saviours, lots of their friends and loved ones have been killed by them some horifically, someone has set them up because apparently negan knew all about what they were up to and moved the guns, the guy was a saviour we saw him taking part in the fight last episode and like most would probably have got back and gave negan more info so why would Daryl or any of them take that chance.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Everyones bad though its a must for survival, Daryl was tortured by the saviours, lots of their friends and loved ones have been killed by them some horifically, someone has set them up because apparently negan knew all about what they were up to and moved the guns, the guy was a saviour we saw him taking part in the fight last episode and like most would probably have got back and gave negan more info so why would Daryl or any of them take that chance.

Exactly. Daryl is trying to protect himself and his apocalypse family, Rick needs to take note

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Daryl was a dick tonight. Felt kinda sorry for the guy he shot at the end.

Daryl was kidnapped, tortured and fed dog food by these people. Of course he's going to kill on sight.

[Amy Jade]

Well I am heart broken

Spoiler:

Shiva's death was almost as hard to digest as Beth's </3

[Cal.]

I'm in BITS.

Spoiler:

Rest in peace to a legend. Shiva </3

[Babayaro.]

Brilliant episode. Jerry and Ezekiel were outstanding. Carol back to her best too