[Oliver_W]

Youtube video

Yaniv is debating trans youtuber Blaire White this evening!

[Kizzy]

Interesting, I agreed with her take on the whole issue when I watched that.

[Ammi]

...what did you watch, Kizzy...I can’t get anything to play..?..

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...what did you watch, Kizzy...I can’t get anything to play..?..

Blaire had previously made a video about Yaniv

Youtube video

[Ammi]

....ahhh thank you so much.....I’ll give it a watch in a bit...

[Vicky.]

Ah I do have a soft spot for Blaire. Even though shes a republican

[Vicky.]

My prediction is Yaniv will cry and leave after a few mins.

[Oliver_W]

I just hope she's careful, he's pretty litigious ...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I just hope she's careful, he's pretty litigious ...

Ahaha, conntender for understatement of the century tbh

Thats possibly his plan to be quite honest. Try to sue her as I am sure shes pretty well off from what I have seen of her. Hopefully the courts tell him to piss off soon, its clear has just taking advantage of silly laws and such.

[Oliver_W]

Yaniv is so annoying in this stream. He claims to menstruate, haha.


But Blaire is gonna donate all proceeds from the stream to the business affected by him <3

[Mystic Mock]

Why is a pervert being entertained by the law? Just tell him to **** off.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Why is a pervert being entertained by the law? Just tell him to **** off.

Oh Canada ...

[Vicky.]

https://twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/s...16276710117381

More notes from tribunal. So obvious this is a fetish for Yaniv..'women get wet when being waxed' and stuff, along with claiming to have periods and wanting 10 year old girls to help him with his pads and that

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

https://twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/s...16276710117381

More notes from tribunal. So obvious this is a fetish for Yaniv..'women get wet when being waxed' and stuff, along with claiming to have periods and wanting 10 year old girls to help him with his pads and that

During the stream with BW he showed off his taser - they're illegal in Canada, and his house was subsequently raided

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

During the stream with BW he showed off his taser - they're illegal in Canada, and his house was subsequently raided

I did read that but wasn't sure if it was true or not...if it was a proper raid, I wonder what else they found, given how dodgy he is

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I did read that but wasn't sure if it was true or not...if it was a proper raid, I wonder what else they found, given how dodgy he is

I've not read into it, but BW's scheduled livestream for tonight is called "Jessica Laniv Arrested Party" haha, so I'm sure she'll spill the tea. I don't really watch her streams though unless they're debates, it's all "Heyy guyyyys do you like my makeup? I went walking todaaayyy. Thanks (name) for the superchat!" so I'll probably just read it up on KF

[Niamh.]

Common sense prevails, thankfully!

Transgender Activist Loses Cases Against Female Estheticians Who Refused To Wax Male Genitals

Transgender activist Jessica Yaniv, a biological male who identifies as a female, filed at least 15 human rights complaints against female estheticians in Canada for refusing to wax his male genitals, as covered this summer by The Daily Wire.

On Tuesday, the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms, which is representing five of the women being targeted by Yaniv, announced that the activist’s cases against their clients have been tossed by the BC Human Rights Tribunal. Moreover, Yaniv will be forced to pay $2,000 each to at least three of the women.

“The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (JCCF) is pleased to announce that the BC Human Rights Tribunal has ruled in favour of home estheticians’ right to refuse to handle male genitalia against their will,” a press release from JCCF said, as highlighted by The Post Millennial.

According to the group, the tribunal’s decision said that “human rights legislation does not require a service provider to wax a type of genitals they are not trained for and have not consented to wax.” Moreover, it was noted that Yaniv “engaged in improper conduct” and “filed complaints for improper purposes.” The activist’s testimony, according to the ruling, was “disingenuous and self-serving,” and Yaniv was “evasive and argumentative and contradicted herself.”

Yaniv filed complaints against 15 female and largely immigrant-owned businesses when he was turned away for a genital waxing for a variety of reasons, which included some of the businesses not being specialized in male genital waxing.

The complainant was seeking as much as $15,000 in damages against each esthetician, according to JCCF, and at least one of the women being targeted, a devout Sikh, was forced to close down her small at-home business due to the activist’s complaint.

“The Justice Centre represented Blue Heaven Beauty Lounge and its owner, Sandeep Banipal, who is an adherent to the Sikh religion. Ms. Banipal is not trained to wax male genitals, and as she explained in the response to the complaint against her, it ‘is not something I am comfortable with or trained to do,’” the JCCF press release outlined.

Sukhi Hehar Gill, also represented by JCCF, “was forced to close her business due to the complaint against her,” the release said. “Ms. Gill, also a practicing adherent of the Sikh faith, provided waxing services only to female clients, attending alone at her clients’ homes. She explained in her response to Yaniv’s complaint against her that it ‘is contrary to my faith’ to provide waxing services to a biological male. Yaniv had requested that Gill attend at Yaniv’s personal residence to provide arm and leg waxing services.”

Yaniv, at order by the tribunal, must now pay out $2,000 to Banipal, Gill, and other JCCF client, Marcia Da Silva.

“Self-identification does not erase physiological reality,” said Jay Cameron, JCCF Litigation Manager and counsel for the estheticians. “Our clients do not offer the service requested. No woman should be compelled to touch male genitals against her will, irrespective of how the owner of the genitals identifies.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trans...-male-genitals

[Cherie]

Great news

[Livia]

Self-identification does not erase physiological reality. Ain't that the truth. best news I've heard for a while.

[Ammi]

...I guess what’s being said, TS...is that within ‘self ID’ and within protecting females, there are problems...there are loopholes and things that have to be addressed ...because there are those who can and will abuse and manipulate etc...and even if that is the smallest of percentages...which it quite likely could be...?...it’s something that many women fear and those fears have to be voiced and they have to be able to be voiced without another layer of fear of being labelled phobic...?...it’s very complex as you know...

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think the way these threads are brought up and presented do usually contain elements of literal transphobia, yes. You can disagree and dislike that opinion but I'm just calling it as I see it. And again I'm talking about literal phobia - I get that these things are legitimately rooted in fear not bigotry - but it's a fear that's often out of proportion with the actual level of risk. Extreme examples are used as if they are, or are ever likely to be, commonplace occurrences. Liek there being a predatory paedophile in Canada exploiting trans rights to their own ends means that it'll become a global free-for-all. It isn't rational.

Thank you TS for this post.

[Kizzy]

It's not phobic to be concerned about precidents being set in court that marginalise women ..which is what happened in Canada.
There is a very real concern that that could translate here too. Why is it transphobic to have this opinion?
This is why women can't speak out as they are automatically given this horrible label.

[Ammi]

...what’s not helping this story ...(...imo...)...is that it seems huge in terms of his perversions ...and yet its main focus of interest...(...from any and all media sources reporting it...)...seems to be very focused on one aspect....with other disturbing things more being skipped over...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...just going to this for a minute with the thread title and the leaning of the posts being more toward the trans aspect, rather than other stuff....this is how it’s being reported anywhere it is being reported, TS...the main focus of all reported stories is that this person feels a woman cannot say no to touching their intimate parts, otherwise it’s showing prejudice..?..

Exactly and if Yaniv can get to court with that and put women out of business/extort money from them, these new Self ID laws need looking at.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I didn't Ammi and I can only put that down to my own bias . All I can say is, I understand being questioning and I even think in this case there IS a possibility that this individual is not being genuine; although if I had to go completely into the realms of guesswork I'd suggest there being perhaps a genuine trans identification that has been badly, badly mishandled in this person's past and has lead to fetishization and predatory activity.

All I would say though is no matter what the stance is on legal self-ID, it's totally separate to individual self-ID and really the gender that someone claims, should at least be respected in words / pronouns, even if there are no legal or access rights along with it or until later in the process.

For example - as far as I'm aware - legal self-ID is not really "a thing" in the UK yet and there are several steps to full legal transition. My wife has worked with several teenagers exploring transgender and the general rule of thumb is, while the road to OFFICIALLY changing gender is a long one, you still refer to that individual as "he", "she" etc. of their CHOSEN gender as soon as they ask for that to be done. It doesn't mean their passport is going to state their chosen gender or they will be legally considered their chosen gender, it's just etiquette.

So yeah... the awful person this thread is about... should be "she" until she says otherwise.

...you’re own bias.....as in ‘seek and you shall find’, which is what I touched on earlier...that what you were looking for../...expecting or whatever was not really there as such or maybe a little but you may have helped cause it ...is that fair..?...it actually was there with me though and you completely missed it because you were over scrutinising elsewhere..?.../...to a degree obviously because I’m not laying all fault with you, not one bit...I honestly don’t know if this person is transitioning at all, which is my reluctance...or if it’s all just money/income generating..?...they were very precise about how much money was gained from each tribunal...(...I feel..)...as though this person may research who they feel would refuse to wax and then target them with the sole intention of...