[Niamh.]

That was a good episode, needed a bit of a slow down after last weeks

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That was a good episode, needed a bit of a slow down after last weeks

oh snap

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

oh snap

Great minds

[Cherie]

Just read Ammis spoiler as well, same

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Just read Ammis spoiler as well, same

Spoiler:

…yeah, even from the very beginning when Joel’s brother was bathing him, I kept getting flashbacks of what he would have been seeing under the cover and that was incredibly emotional …I think that it would have been too much to cope with an episode anything other than it was after last week…we needed this time to gather ourselves…

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That was a good episode, needed a bit of a slow down after last weeks

Yes Staying Alive
is getting harder

[Benjamin]

Another great episode with some changes from the game.

Spoiler:

I reckon they are defo going to split the story from the game into two or 3 seasons, as there’s so much to cover with both ladies and their journeys.

[Jessica.]

I got jumscared by a

Spoiler:

scrotum

when I was watching at 10am this morning, not a good way to start the day

[Ammi]

…episode 4…that was an excellent episode, loved it…

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I got jumscared by a

Spoiler:

scrotum

when I was watching at 10am this morning, not a good way to start the day

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I got jumscared by a

Spoiler:

scrotum

when I was watching at 10am this morning, not a good way to start the day

Same

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I got jumscared by a

Spoiler:

scrotum

when I was watching at 10am this morning, not a good way to start the day

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Same

…I don’t get that, I missed something…?……

[Ammi]

…it was a very tense episode in parts, those muthers are fast…walkers on speed ….Rick was lucky to get the slowed down version…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I don’t get that, I missed something…?……

Spoiler:

the guy chained up that Isaac was torturing

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Spoiler:

the guy chained up that Isaac was torturing

Spoiler:

…aha, that’s why I missed it …I didn’t look at the screen for that bit/I find torture difficult ….it’s good that you all were on it, though…so to speak…….

[user104658]

Spoiler:

I strongly suspect they're going to end the season at the end of "Ellie's Seattle journey" and then reset to Seattle Day 1 and show Abby's story as a whole separate season. Either that or they're going to condense her part down to one episode... which frankly would be a terrible decision.

[user104658]

I dunno mang... I'm trying really hard to like it/to just see it as a completely different story, but they're absolutely wrecking "Older Ellie" as a character this season. Some of the decisions with the changes are straight up bad... aspects of the character make very little narrative sense.

[edit to add] Season 1 was spot on BTW, something has changed drastically for season 2.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I dunno mang... I'm trying really hard to like it/to just see it as a completely different story, but they're absolutely wrecking "Older Ellie" as a character this season. Some of the decisions with the changes are straight up bad... aspects of the character make very little narrative sense.

[edit to add] Season 1 was spot on BTW, something has changed drastically for season 2.

Spoiler:

In what way?

[Ammi]

…thing is…for me and other viewers who haven’t been familiar with any game storyline and are just looking at it as a stand alone plot and stand alone characters etc…

Spoiler:

…I think the last episode was excellent in showing that breakdown of the relationship with Joel and Ellie that we had seen at the beginning at the from the dance scenes but hadn’t really understood…and also that difficult relationship with the character of Gail was fully explained also…I didn’t really think that I could see Joel as anything other than someone who did what he needed to do …but he didn’t give Ellie the chance to decide whether she wanted to ‘fulfil her destiny/her purpose’ in what she could have meant to others…what she could have meant to humankind, really…and in doing that he didn’t give others, potentially so many others to be disease/virus free….what he did, even doing it for love was pretty horrendous….

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Spoiler:

In what way?

Spoiler:

Well for one they've at times made Ellie seem a bit thick - Ellie is meant to be clever/resourceful... yes early in game at one point she's saved by Dina, but in the show I swear they're making it seem like she wouldn't last 5 minutes on her own. That part aside... her still having the jokey/upbeat nature of S1 Ellie makes ZERO narrative sense. TLOU2 Ellie is rage-fuelled, depressed, and single-minded and the character HAS to be that because -- objectively speaking -- the Seattle mission is a suicide mission. They're entering a strange city full of soldiers to track down and kill a group of killers. Ellie being unable to see past her rage and trauma is half the plot. But the show has her wisecrackin' and telling jokes like "young Ellie" ... the whole point is that Joel's death broke her ... the Ellie who is in the headspace of the Ellie in the show wouldn't be in Seattle. You could argue that she's masking her trauma but if that's what it's meant to be, it's not selling. The key example I suppose is the "I suck at math and don't know what a protractor is hehe" scene... shocking writing IMO. Like yes it's fine as a throwaway joke. Prolly not when Dina is in the process of trying to figure out where Joel's killer is in a city full of soldiers . It would only make sense if she was more herself/jokey when distracted/when they're just hanging out, before getting back to business. Joking about the actual search? It does not make sense.

And don't get me started on Dina's "I'd track them down forever and never stop" speech like wtf that is going to be a major stumbling block later on, unless they've entirely changed another crucial part of the plot and theme . Show Dina is also out for revenge. Game Dina is only there because she loves Ellie. It's a huge and important plot distinction. And [double spoilers] it's going to make Dina look like an absolute dick if the post-seattle farm/2nd mission/return plays out the same way.

I'm not a stickler for adaptations changing things from original version but with this they're doing something really odd; changing major details like this, whilst NOT changing the overall direction of the plot/major "set piece" moments, and the result doesn't make sense. Like by all means change it but that would have knock on effects.

[Ammi]

….I just realised yesterday when I saw that a finale trailer was showing on NOW TV…that Monday is the final episode of season 2…

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

….I just realised yesterday when I saw that a finale trailer was showing on NOW TV…that Monday is the final episode of season 2…

It has gone so quickly!!

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Ammi

….I just realised yesterday when I saw that a finale trailer was showing on NOW TV…that Monday is the final episode of season 2…

What already!? It doesn’t feel anywhere near ready for a finale.

I guess why they are doing that is it’ll be a natural start for Abby’s story for season 3 to lead back into season 4 with both of them. I imagine that won’t be too long for a release either.

[user104658]

I suspect they filmed both seasons back to back and S3 will release early next year.

Its still been far too short of a run though, it feels rushed and some of the things they've conflated to shorten it... I still just dunno.

Spoiler:

In the last episode the conversation outaide Joel's house where she says she wants to try to forgive him... In the game the scene where she finally gets him to admit what happened was months earlier (and is the reason for their rift). The flashback scene outside the house, after the party where she says she wants to try to forgive him, is LATE in the story - you don't know that happened until after you've seen all the events of seattle. She says she wants to try, they make vague plans to watch a movie at Joel's after patrol the next day (which never happens of course, because that's when he dies). It makes her mission make even more sense.

This show way just doesn't make sense honestly. He finally admits the truth and 30 seconds later she's ready to try to fix the relationship because he says "Love you kiddo". It's not clicking! And as above the worst part of that really is that it's been done to rush the story forward... And it feels rushed.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I suspect they filmed both seasons back to back and S3 will release early next year.

Its still been far too short of a run though, it feels rushed and some of the things they've conflated to shorten it... I still just dunno.

Spoiler:

In the last episode the conversation outaide Joel's house where she says she wants to try to forgive him... In the game the scene where she finally gets him to admit what happened was months earlier (and is the reason for their rift). The flashback scene outside the house, after the party where she says she wants to try to forgive him, is LATE in the story - you don't know that happened until after you've seen all the events of seattle. She says she wants to try, they make vague plans to watch a movie at Joel's after patrol the next day (which never happens of course, because that's when he dies). It makes her mission make even more sense.

This show way just doesn't make sense honestly. He finally admits the truth and 30 seconds later she's ready to try to fix the relationship because he says "Love you kiddo". It's not clicking! And as above the worst part of that really is that it's been done to rush the story forward... And it feels rushed.

Looks like they’re filming season 3 this summer.

I agree though it has felt very rushed. I’m unsure why they didn’t decide to make this a ten episode season to cover this part of the game in more detail.