[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I loved series 8 and most of series 9 tbh. The first half anyway

Series 8 was TRASH I'm sorry to say. So was 6 and 7 and most of 9

[MB.]

I'll have to re-watch series 9 to really have any idea what to make of it (*cough* I'm talking to you, Netflix *cough*)

But yeah, series 8 was my favourite since 5, maybe even the Tennant era

[Morgan.]

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/18/the-fi...-6580811/#mv-a

The 1st Doctor (played by David Bradley) will return in the Christmas Special to 'help out' Peter Capaldi

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/18/the-fi...-6580811/#mv-a

The 1st Doctor (played by David Bradley) will return in the Christmas Special to 'help out' Peter Capaldi

I like the idea, but I don't like the idea of David Bradley playing the 1st Doctor again. It's silly but in my eyes David Bradley didn't play The Doctor, he played William Hartnell playing The Doctor, if that makes sense? It would ruin the illusion of Doctor Who.

Am I making sense?

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Jarrod

I like the idea, but I don't like the idea of David Bradley playing the 1st Doctor again. It's silly but in my eyes David Bradley didn't play The Doctor, he played William Hartnell playing The Doctor, if that makes sense? It would ruin the illusion of Doctor Who.

Am I making sense?

I know exactly what you mean! Also I'm sick of multi doctor stories altogether, the 50th special should have been a one off

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/18/the-fi...-6580811/#mv-a

The 1st Doctor (played by David Bradley) will return in the Christmas Special to 'help out' Peter Capaldi

Originally Posted by Chewy

I wonder if he will meet his granddaughter again? o:

I wonder if anything will be left as a surprise or if we will get every tiny surprise spoiled before we've even started watching the series properly yet.

Originally Posted by Jarrod

I like the idea, but I don't like the idea of David Bradley playing the 1st Doctor again. It's silly but in my eyes David Bradley didn't play The Doctor, he played William Hartnell playing The Doctor, if that makes sense? It would ruin the illusion of Doctor Who.

Am I making sense?

Yes. I get you. He was playing William Hartnell.

But then they had Matt Smith appear in that episode as "the Doctor" rather than Matt Smith so the fourth wall was already exploded.

[Scarlett.]

I wonder if he will meet his granddaughter again? o:

[MB.]

Robot of Sherwood and In the Forest of the Night were the only parts of series 8 that were trash

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by MB.

Robot of Sherwood and In the Forest of the Night were the only parts of series 8 that were trash

MESS at the whole of the earth turning into a forest and no one even caring.

[Greg!]

OMG series 8 also had that mental bloody episode where the Moon was an egg or something. That was a new low

[Glenn.]

That was a great episode

[Glenn.]

The moon egg one I mean

[Sticks]

The science behind that one was rubbish and non existence

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Sticks

The science behind that one was rubbish and non existence

But you're fine with the concept of a man who can change all his structural DNA whenever he dies flying around in a blue box throughout time and space?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Rob!

But you're fine with the concept of a man who can change all his structural DNA whenever he dies flying around in a blue box throughout time and space?

I understand what you're saying here but for me the element of "suspension of disbelief" is important. Mine can go pretty far, to be fair, I watch a lot of sci-fi that doesn't stand up to scientific scrutiny, BUT I draw the line when it doesn't stand up to plain old logic.

The moon egg episode... I was fine with. Totally fine with. I actually thought it was really good, in fact, and a hugely imaginative concept... but the end ruined it.

Because it left behind another egg, than was exactly the same size as the first egg, as a replacement moon.

So the thing hatched, a newborn space creature, and then left behind an egg the same size as the one it literally just hatched out of. Wut! It laid something the same size as it's entire body. The concept is ridiculous. They should have come up with another explanation like... I dunno... it leaves behind some invisible gravitational force so that the earth doesn't go into chaos, and then the humans replace the moon with some sort of projection or hologram from then on so that people don't panic. Still pretty out there but at least feasible.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

The science behind that one was rubbish and non existence

Yeah, the majority of science depicted in the show is non existent my love. It's called fiction for a reason.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, the majority of science depicted in the show is non existent my love. It's called fiction for a reason.

I have written fiction (You can find some examples on this forum) but there are rules like internal consistency and rules for when you have to do things which as far as we know are impossible, like faster than light travel or in my case shifting between different worlds (Special devices either magic from a world where magic exists or fabricated machines as in our world) I also made use of real high end physics theories, like M-Theory as progression from string theory and the many worlds hypothesis.

That episode of Doctor Who broke them.

The one Sci-Fi show I hear that stuck to real world physics was Stargate-SG1 so it can be done.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I have written fiction (You can find some examples on this forum) but there are rules like internal consistency and rules for when you have to do things which as far as we know are impossible, like faster than light travel or in my case shifting between different worlds (Special devices either magic from a world where magic exists or fabricated machines as in our world) I also made use of real high end physics theories, like M-Theory as progression from string theory and the many worlds hypothesis.

That episode of Doctor Who broke them.

The one Sci-Fi show I hear that stuck to real world physics was Stargate-SG1 so it can be done.

Stargate has a couple of minor slips too but, to be fair, considering it ran for a total of 17 seasons (about 400 episodes) over three shows a couple of mis-steps isn't too bad. A sort of jarring one that stands out for me was when they introduced the idea that matter was stored in a buffer as data in each gate and could be retrieved later (in an SG1 episode) though they did keep that constant from then on e.g. The galactic bridge forwarding data from gate to gate in SGA. It wasn't impossible sci-fi BUT it did contradict some of the established lore about how the Stargate worked from before that point, minorly breaking the established rules. Also it should never have introduced time travel into the equation; I feel like that was a major mistake for the franchise, and the supposed science (wormhole intersecting a supernova / black hole I think?) was... Flimsy, to say the least. I also just generally don't think time travel fit well with the tone of the show.

Being fair to Doctor Who, it doesn't actually break its own rules THAT often, however it is very guilty of employing "deus ex machina" and frequently inventing NEW "science" to further the plot. I've even softened my stance on the gender swapping regens, as I'm rewatching old ones at the minute and Matt Smith's Doctor actually mentions another time lord being "a woman a couple of times". I mistakenly thought Missy was the first it was mentioned, but apparently not.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I have written fiction (You can find some examples on this forum) but there are rules like internal consistency and rules for when you have to do things which as far as we know are impossible, like faster than light travel or in my case shifting between different worlds (Special devices either magic from a world where magic exists or fabricated machines as in our world) I also made use of real high end physics theories, like M-Theory as progression from string theory and the many worlds hypothesis.

That episode of Doctor Who broke them.

The one Sci-Fi show I hear that stuck to real world physics was Stargate-SG1 so it can be done.

Like Star Wars, Doctor Who is Sci-Fantasy.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I have written fiction (You can find some examples on this forum) but there are rules like internal consistency and rules for when you have to do things which as far as we know are impossible, like faster than light travel or in my case shifting between different worlds (Special devices either magic from a world where magic exists or fabricated machines as in our world) I also made use of real high end physics theories, like M-Theory as progression from string theory and the many worlds hypothesis.

That episode of Doctor Who broke them.

The one Sci-Fi show I hear that stuck to real world physics was Stargate-SG1 so it can be done.

Let me stop you there, what you write or what Stargate did is irrelevant.

Doctor Who is a sci-fi fantasy and rarely uses actual real scientific theories. It's also ran for 54 years and constantly broken its own rules.

But I'm sure that's just another reason it's going to be cancelled imminently. You know, they've gone to the trouble of hiring Chris Chibnall so.

[MB.]

So this is on

[Rob!]

Meh. It was alright.

[Denver]

It was terrible episode

[Wizard.]

I only caught the last five minutes but it seemed truly dire and next week looks even worse. No chemistry whatsoever

[MB.]

Well I watched the whole thing and it wasn't bad