[Sticks]

The science behind that one was rubbish and non existence

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Sticks

The science behind that one was rubbish and non existence

But you're fine with the concept of a man who can change all his structural DNA whenever he dies flying around in a blue box throughout time and space?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Rob!

But you're fine with the concept of a man who can change all his structural DNA whenever he dies flying around in a blue box throughout time and space?

I understand what you're saying here but for me the element of "suspension of disbelief" is important. Mine can go pretty far, to be fair, I watch a lot of sci-fi that doesn't stand up to scientific scrutiny, BUT I draw the line when it doesn't stand up to plain old logic.

The moon egg episode... I was fine with. Totally fine with. I actually thought it was really good, in fact, and a hugely imaginative concept... but the end ruined it.

Because it left behind another egg, than was exactly the same size as the first egg, as a replacement moon.

So the thing hatched, a newborn space creature, and then left behind an egg the same size as the one it literally just hatched out of. Wut! It laid something the same size as it's entire body. The concept is ridiculous. They should have come up with another explanation like... I dunno... it leaves behind some invisible gravitational force so that the earth doesn't go into chaos, and then the humans replace the moon with some sort of projection or hologram from then on so that people don't panic. Still pretty out there but at least feasible.

[MB.]

So this is on

[Rob!]

Meh. It was alright.

[Denver]

It was terrible episode

[Wizard.]

I only caught the last five minutes but it seemed truly dire and next week looks even worse. No chemistry whatsoever

[MB.]

Well I watched the whole thing and it wasn't bad

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by MB.

I'd have preferred it if they'd stuck with the dystopian "everyone has to be happy" theme instead of...whatever the ending was about.

[Will.]

I quite liked it, well it probably has been the most watchable episode I've seen over the last few years.

Next week looks absolutely crap.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I'd have preferred it if they'd stuck with the dystopian "everyone has to be happy" theme instead of...whatever the ending was about.

Yeah, there were definite issues (I mean, this is the guy who wrote the worst non-series 2 episode of nuWho, so I don't think anyone had particularly high expectations), such as the ending and the fact that Bill seemed to know everything one minute and nothing the next, but as far as character-building episodes between the Doctor and the companion go, it was pretty fun

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

The science behind that one was rubbish and non existence

Yeah, the majority of science depicted in the show is non existent my love. It's called fiction for a reason.

[MB.]

(I should probably add a to that too)

[Ashley.]

I don't know, I enjoyed it. The ending seemed a little too "let's just make up a bunch of words and terms that would make sense if they did make sense, rather than a satisfying conclusion that would make sense and does make sense."

(To sum up, the ending was a little bit like that sentence)

[Headie]

Yeah I enjoyed the episode but the rushed ending and randomly simple resolution was a tad anti-climatic. Still really enjoying Bill though and look forward to next week (and glad that Matt Lucas has seemingly been left behind for a few episodes)

[Rob!]

There were some great ideas and the production value was pretty bloody good. It looked amazing.

[MB.]

As long as Bill's characterisation is a little more consistent than "I was able to figure out the entire future of my planet from a couple of pictures on a slideshow but I couldn't possibly guess what's in these hundreds of cryogenic freezers I'M EVER SO UMBLE I JUST SERVE CHIPS", then I'm optimistic about the rest of the series

[MB.]

Though parts of me did wonder if Frank Cottrell-Boyce had just watched the first and last episodes of Black Mirror series three and decided "eh, that'll do"

[Rob!]

It was certainly better than his last episode but I don't know if he should really get another Who episode.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by MB.

Though parts of me did wonder if Frank Cottrell-Boyce had just watched the first and last episodes of Black Mirror series three and decided "eh, that'll do"

[Glenn.]

It was ok ish episode. The production was great. Story was a little to be desired. Still really like Bill

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, the majority of science depicted in the show is non existent my love. It's called fiction for a reason.

I have written fiction (You can find some examples on this forum) but there are rules like internal consistency and rules for when you have to do things which as far as we know are impossible, like faster than light travel or in my case shifting between different worlds (Special devices either magic from a world where magic exists or fabricated machines as in our world) I also made use of real high end physics theories, like M-Theory as progression from string theory and the many worlds hypothesis.

That episode of Doctor Who broke them.

The one Sci-Fi show I hear that stuck to real world physics was Stargate-SG1 so it can be done.

[Saph]

It started off really well but it got a bit 'ugh' after the humans woke up and the doctor went on another rant about war etc

should've just let the robots kill them all tbh

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I have written fiction (You can find some examples on this forum) but there are rules like internal consistency and rules for when you have to do things which as far as we know are impossible, like faster than light travel or in my case shifting between different worlds (Special devices either magic from a world where magic exists or fabricated machines as in our world) I also made use of real high end physics theories, like M-Theory as progression from string theory and the many worlds hypothesis.

That episode of Doctor Who broke them.

The one Sci-Fi show I hear that stuck to real world physics was Stargate-SG1 so it can be done.

Stargate has a couple of minor slips too but, to be fair, considering it ran for a total of 17 seasons (about 400 episodes) over three shows a couple of mis-steps isn't too bad. A sort of jarring one that stands out for me was when they introduced the idea that matter was stored in a buffer as data in each gate and could be retrieved later (in an SG1 episode) though they did keep that constant from then on e.g. The galactic bridge forwarding data from gate to gate in SGA. It wasn't impossible sci-fi BUT it did contradict some of the established lore about how the Stargate worked from before that point, minorly breaking the established rules. Also it should never have introduced time travel into the equation; I feel like that was a major mistake for the franchise, and the supposed science (wormhole intersecting a supernova / black hole I think?) was... Flimsy, to say the least. I also just generally don't think time travel fit well with the tone of the show.

Being fair to Doctor Who, it doesn't actually break its own rules THAT often, however it is very guilty of employing "deus ex machina" and frequently inventing NEW "science" to further the plot. I've even softened my stance on the gender swapping regens, as I'm rewatching old ones at the minute and Matt Smith's Doctor actually mentions another time lord being "a woman a couple of times". I mistakenly thought Missy was the first it was mentioned, but apparently not.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I have written fiction (You can find some examples on this forum) but there are rules like internal consistency and rules for when you have to do things which as far as we know are impossible, like faster than light travel or in my case shifting between different worlds (Special devices either magic from a world where magic exists or fabricated machines as in our world) I also made use of real high end physics theories, like M-Theory as progression from string theory and the many worlds hypothesis.

That episode of Doctor Who broke them.

The one Sci-Fi show I hear that stuck to real world physics was Stargate-SG1 so it can be done.

Like Star Wars, Doctor Who is Sci-Fantasy.