[Macie Lightfoot]

"I was actually offended at Redemption Island. That the six of them thought that we would believe that. And I found the charade to be over-the-top. And somewhat pathetic."

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Why is Sophie great again?

She has zero tolerance for bull**** and she was placed onto a tribe that was fueled entirely by bull****, and she was entirely transparent in her disdain for it all what's not to love about a twenty-two-year-old who takes complete control of her tribe with her ice cold affect and lets a con-artist returning player, a sleazy dating coach, a legitimate psychopath, and a weird rancher pull her chariot to victory?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Youtube video

[rk3388]

Whitney and Keith were both awful awful awful.

In the words of Kim Woodburn: "YOU ADULTURA. YOU ADULTURA"

[Macie Lightfoot]

To keep up with the cult references, Jim's last minute attempt to save himself involved him telling Albert and Sophie that they're the only two not drinking the Kool-Aid and not in the cult, Coach and Dawn repeatedly making comments about how this is "one tribe" and "a family," Coach literally referring to "The Family" in NTOS.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

She has zero tolerance for bull**** and she was placed onto a tribe that was fueled entirely by bull****, and she was entirely transparent in her disdain for it all what's not to love about a twenty-two-year-old who takes complete control of her tribe with her ice cold affect and lets a con-artist returning player, a sleazy dating coach, a legitimate psychopath, and a weird rancher pull her chariot to victory?

You're mistaking her acting whiny and spoiled to her having zero tolerance for bull****.

She was able to take control of the game because she was totally part of the bull**** within that tribe too.

[MB.]

Sophierce

[LemonJam]

"Albert, drop your stack and pick up my pieces" - Sophiesus Clarke

[JerseyWins]

3 episodes into Marquesas now. I'm really liking Boston Rob again. The guy loves building like a cult around him...

I like all of the Rob/Sean/Vecepia/Sarah group probably in that order. I also like Gina so the rest of the tribe that's left is great. They're easily the better tribe but they're getting a majority of the air time obviously so that could be why.

Hated to see Peter go first but the last two boots have made up for it. Both Patricia & Hunter were very meh.

[TomC]

let Kathy live

[JerseyWins]

Yeah I actually like Kathy, I just didn't comment on anyone from Rotu since they've been shown much less so far. But she's one of my favorites from Rotu (although there's a tribe swap now). This tribe swap episode has been amazing so far. Maraamu's reactions about the "workaholics" from Rotu.

[JerseyWins]

Daaamn I was really hoping for a John blindside (although it would've went to a 4-4 vote so I wasn't expecting it). Oh well, back to back really good episodes.

[Braden]

Watching the Redemption Island finale now:

Ugh, Natalie Tenerelli is pathetic.

[Braden]

Okay, so I have finally finished Redemption Island

The season speaks for itself. Definitely the worst one I've endured, nothing exciting went on that resonated with me and why I like Survivor.

Cast ranking:

Julie
Andrea
Kristina
Sarita
Ashley
Steve
Francesca
Mike
Ralph
Stephanie
Matt
Rob
Grant
Krista
Russell
Natalie
David
Phillip

Season ranking:

Micronesia
Heroes vs. Villains
Borneo
Pearl Islands
Amazon
Vanuatu
Panama
Kaoh Rong*
Africa
San Juan Del Sur
China
Cagayan
Marquesas
Gabon
Palau
Millennials vs. Gen-X
Nicaragua
Outback
Tocantins
All-Stars
Fiji
Guatemala
Worlds Apart
Blood vs. Water
Cambodia*
Cook Islands
Samoa
Thailand
Redemption Island

* denotes a season I haven't watched in its entirety.

Left to watch:

South Pacific
One World
Philippines
Caramoan

[JerseyWins]

7 episodes into Marquesas now. Very good season. I've enjoyed all of the first 4 seasons so far at least to some extent but I haven't seen an AMAZING season yet. This one might be it if it has a strong finish (however all of the first 3 had very weak finishes so idk if I'm expecting too much).

Also... Rob </3

[Braden]

Why is Dawn swinging from a tree branch and falling flat on her arse not a more talked about, iconic moment of SoPa?

[Braden]

I'm loving the fact that Edna is somehow using tree mail as a cap during her confessionals.

[Braden]

-Edna comes back after being in on the discussion with Coach's alliance-

Christine: What were they talking about?
Edna: Uh, idk
Christine: Well, what did they say?
Edna: I think they said Sophie to begin with
Christine: No, Sophie was out there with them. You're messing up your story big time! You need to get your story straight!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Braden

Watching the Redemption Island finale now:

Ugh, Natalie Tenerelli is pathetic.

soooooooo pathetic, like I get that you're young but come on. Ugh, that whole Ometepe tribe was just awful, the only remotely interesting part of the endgame was the blatantly false last minute doubt of ASHLEY UNDERWOOD being the person who could possibly stop Rob from winning I think I might rewatch RI after I finish SoPa bc idk I guess I'm in the mood to punish myself???

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

This one might be it if it has a strong finish (however all of the first 3 had very weak finishes so idk if I'm expecting too much).

ooooookay so Borneo is also in my rewatch queue because between the idea that Kelly took the wrong person to the F2/Kelly had a chance to win at all, and now the assertion that the endgame of Borneo was very weak... let's just say I have some misconceptions to clear up

Originally Posted by Braden

I'm loving the fact that Edna is somehow using tree mail as a cap during her confessionals.

Fashionista Edna something I completely forgot about until I started my rewatch.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Watching the South Pacific recap episode and no scene quite sums up Ozzy's immaturity and assholeishness like him forcing an uncomfortable Cochran to hold the chicken as he killed it, and then spend the next five minutes laughing in Cochran's face at how he was holding the chicken right in front of his crotch and how he had his eyes closed and his mouth opened. Like, not just laughing at Cochran, but laughing so hard that he could barely form a coherent sentence.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Watching the South Pacific recap episode and no scene quite sums up Ozzy's immaturity and assholeishness like him forcing an uncomfortable Cochran to hold the chicken as he killed it, and then spend the next five minutes laughing in Cochran's face at how he was holding the chicken right in front of his crotch and how he had his eyes closed and his mouth opened. Like, not just laughing at Cochran, but laughing so hard that he could barely form a coherent sentence.

Is this making fun of him though? It's just laughing at the situation.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

ooooookay so Borneo is also in my rewatch queue because between the idea that Kelly took the wrong person to the F2/Kelly had a chance to win at all, and now the assertion that the endgame of Borneo was very weak... let's just say I have some misconceptions to clear up

In fairness, it does have the best endgame between seasons 1-3 but that's not saying much.

Also in fairness, the format of Survivor just causes a lot of boring and/or predictable finishes so it's hard to bash Borneo on a weak finish when it wasn't that weak compared to a lot of seasons.

It's rare that you see an actual eventful/entertaining endgame... Cagayan, SJDS, Pearl Islands, China, even MvGx & Kaoh Rong come to mind as seasons that didn't slow down at the end. They are pretty far up among my favorite seasons of Survivor mainly because that's a big advantage over many seasons that just kinda die out.

Borneo definitely slowed down though... one of the biggest moments during the last couple of boots was like, Kelly & Susan's argument which wasn't anything spectacular, and there wasn't much else aside from an entertaining confessional here and there.

[DouglasS]

I found Natalie the worst in all of Redemption Island, just because she was such a weak, feeble woman. She gives a bad name to femlale survivor players. Players like her are the reasons why Jeff Probst views women players as weak.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah but she was on the Cambodia ballot so the joke's on us

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

In fairness, it does have the best endgame between seasons 1-3 but that's not saying much.

Also in fairness, the format of Survivor just causes a lot of boring and/or predictable finishes so it's hard to bash Borneo on a weak finish when it wasn't that weak compared to a lot of seasons.

It's rare that you see an actual eventful/entertaining endgame... Cagayan, SJDS, Pearl Islands, China, even MvGx & Kaoh Rong come to mind as seasons that didn't slow down at the end. They are pretty far up among my favorite seasons of Survivor mainly because that's a big advantage over many seasons that just kinda die out.

Borneo definitely slowed down though... one of the biggest moments during the last couple of boots was like, Kelly & Susan's argument which wasn't anything spectacular, and there wasn't much else aside from an entertaining confessional here and there.

This reeks of ~BIG MOVES~ which duh, you're not going to find those in the early seasons of Survivor. I could go on and on about the game serving as a vehicle for human drama and the Borneo finale being fantastic in that Tagi had to start cannibalizing and turning on themselves and every storyline got resolved in a narratively satisfying way, but if you're dismissing the Kelly/Sue dynamic as nothing spectacular then you're probably not gonna get it.

[JerseyWins]

On to the next disagreement... Natalie T was fantastic. Very sweet and she had a bunch of funny moments. Nothing wrong with being young & naive.

And to me Natalie/Ashley vs. Phillip was almost as good as Shane vs. Courtney/Danielle.