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Old 19-06-2013, 10:42 AM #1
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What I meant was if you were a white British male would you date a black African princess or if you were a Chinese person would you date an aboriginal girl or a girl well outside your races beliefs and parameters.

I think most readers get my drift without my comments giving the race police another excuse to spout crap about my analysis of race.
That probably is a definition of racism sam...
There are no all encompassing beliefs and parameters, we are all individuals.
If you were suggesting specific physical features then maybe I could see your point, otherwise I really don't sorry.
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What I meant was if you were a white British male would you date a black African princess or if you were a Chinese person would you date an aboriginal girl or a girl well outside your races beliefs and parameters.

I think most readers get my drift without my comments giving the race police another excuse to spout crap about my analysis of race.
Who are the race police and why attempt to dismiss or belittle the opposing argument with name calling?
Any ways..... Russell Brand can answer affirmative to what ever it is you meant.
Paul Welller can answer affirmative to your question.
Michael Caine can answer affirmative to your question.
As can Luke Goss, Adam Clayton and David Frost and in the USA the list is endless let alone the ordinary man on the street, Robert De Niro, George Lucas, Boris Becker, Justin Chambers, Robin Thicke, Brad Pitt, Clint Eastwood, David Moscow, Frank Langella, Ted Danson and more historically Mr Loving.
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Who are the race police and why attempt to dismiss or belittle the opposing argument with name calling?
Any ways..... Russell Brand can answer affirmative to what ever it is you meant.
Paul Welller can answer affirmative to your question.
Michael Caine can answer affirmative to your question.
As can Luke Goss, Adam Clayton and David Frost and in the USA the list is endless let alone the ordinary man on the street, Robert De Niro, George Lucas, Boris Becker, Justin Chambers, Robin Thicke, Brad Pitt, Clint Eastwood, David Moscow, Frank Langella, Ted Danson and historic Mr Loving.
Let it go now. If you want to get all bent out of shape because of racial discrimination, there are plenty of organisations that deal with actual discrimination far more relevant than this. I'm sure those causes would be grateful for some of the effort and time you've put into this non-event.
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I've dated people who weren't the same race or nationality as me, I never really saw the issue..I guess I must be a racist, because I calculatingly knew they weren't the same race as me or something.
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A poster on DS said this about the 'goes both ways' thing. I agree 100% with what they said. They managed to get across what they meant without sounding aggressive, or bitter, or anything like that.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1130


As for dating someone 'directly opposed to my own race'...I have. I do not champion Ginas cause at all, I think she was bang out of order to scream racism. But some posts in this thread are questionable at the very best.
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I disagree about the accent part for one very simple reason - there was an entertainment industry that existed within the UK, that existed purely by imitating and mocking people of different races.

Shows like "the black and white minstrel show", the stream of racist accents thrown around by comedians like Jim Davidson and Bernard Manning, and the way Hollywood would rather black face white people up than use black actors.

That's the historical (recent) context that has to be acknowledged. I also disagree with Gina's claim of racism, but funny accents of funny people was a staple in inequality in this country (and across the west) for a long long time.


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A poster on DS said this about the 'goes both ways' thing. I agree 100% with what they said. They managed to get across what they meant without sounding aggressive, or bitter, or anything like that.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1130


As for dating someone 'directly opposed to my own race'...I have. I do not champion Ginas cause at all, I think she was bang out of order to scream racism. But some posts in this thread are questionable at the very best.
Thanks for the link Vicky, that poster really did have an excellent perception of what progressive really does and should mean.
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Is this thread still on topic? Looks like it went off ages ago and its the usual suspects spouting their usual outrage.
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Seriously though There is a fine line, it is so easy to have your intent misconstrued as an offensive slur on a whole cross section of society or indeed a whole race...
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I thought the whole thing was ridiculous.
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chuff and cassie I wouldn't waste your time being drawn out on issues, your feelings are very clear. The whole debate is a grey area there is never going to be a right and a wrong answer... everything is subject to interpretation.
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chuff and cassie I wouldn't waste your time being drawn out on issues, your feelings are very clear. The whole debate is a grey area there is never going to be a right and a wrong answer... everything is subject to interpretation.
Yes of course it is ,but everyone views should be allowed to be teier own ,with do-gooders putting their twopence in it
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chuff and cassie I wouldn't waste your time being drawn out on issues, your feelings are very clear. The whole debate is a grey area there is never going to be a right and a wrong answer... everything is subject to interpretation.
Exactly. Interpretation? Some would find the comment 'I don't find black people attractive' to be far too similar to 'I think all black people are ugly'. In essence those two statements are the same but one would be interpreted as a personal choice where as the other would be considered highly offensive.
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not gonna read what anyone else has said cause too many pages but i think Jemima saying Gina probably wouldn't go out with a white man could be considered offensive. she's assuming just because she's black she wouldn't want to date a white person. Her only reasoning for that is that she thinks white people don't date black people. EVERYONE IS EQUAL :'( :'( :'(
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Well this thread flew off into the stratosphere didn't it?
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I think this thread has run it's course - Closed.
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