[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

No, and they don't.

Where have they been speaking out? I haven't seen any of that, you would think Fb and the like would be a wash with stories

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

I've seen footage of empty hospitals, yes.

well yes because visitors are not allowed in, and alot of people are fearful of attending A and E attendance for example dropped by about 80%

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

well yes because visitors are not allowed in, and alot of people are fearful of attending A and E attendance for example dropped by about 80%

So if A and E is down by 80% then how are hospitals overrun?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

So if A and E is down by 80% then how are hospitals overrun?

ICU? ventilators? you cant just throw open a door and say here we are ICU , staff isolating, staff off sick

anyway 80% was last March probably back to near normal levels now

[arista]

[People vaccinated up to and including 22 March 2021

First dose: 28,327,873

Second dose: 2,363,684]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

ICU? ventilators? you cant just throw open a door and say here we are ICU , staff isolating, staff off sick

anyway 80% was last March probably back to near normal levels now

the numbers in hospital and those on ventilators has come right down from its peak, which is great. We can open up carefully now, but those conspiracy theorists saying hospitals were never busy are talking nonsense. I find it's best to leave them to it. There is no point in discussing it.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's not my vision, Prince Charles has been talking about it as has the World economic Forum.

Prince Charlie preferred Camilla over Di and he talks to his plants ... I won’t be taking any notice of him tbh


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[arista]

From The PM Live

[17:15 :Antibodies are holding up - but autumn booster
jabs may be needed

Tim from Northampton asks a question about
how long antibodies last for and if it means
that vulnerable groups vaccinated first will
need to be prioritised for a second
vaccination cycle before young people
have even had their first jab.

Sir Patrick Vallance says in general
antibody levels are "holding up".

He says: "We don't know exactly how long
because obviously people haven't been
vaccinated for a very long period.
So you may see some slight decline.
But on the whole, antibody levels are holding up."

He says there will be a need to think about
booster jabs in the autumn.]

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=arista;11022638]From The PM Live

[17:15 :Antibodies are holding up - but autumn booster
jabs may be needed

Tim from Northampton asks a question about
how long antibodies last for and if it means
that vulnerable groups vaccinated first will
need to be prioritised for a second
vaccination cycle before young people
have even had their first jab.

Sir Patrick Vallance says in general
antibody levels are "holding up".

He says: "We don't know exactly how long
because obviously people haven't been
vaccinated for a very long period.
So you may see some slight decline.
But on the whole, antibody levels are holding up."

He says there will be a need to think about
booster jabs in the autumn.][/QUOTE]

Think we were expecting that anyway

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They could have done that without a Pandemic though, we were already heading that way pretty swiftly. Don't get me wrong I'm not totally closed off to the idea that governments/big Pharma etc are up to no good, I just can't think of or haven't heard a reason that sounds logical for why they would yet

'Best' I saw was..forcing us to actually do something to slow global warming. But even that falls down tbh when you factor in the likes of china 'going along' too.

Mind, those who say things like that..generally dont seem to think its a hoax or whatever. Seems to be they know covid is real, but think governments and such have been exagerating the claims hugely. Given some used the situation to bung money to mates..that does not seem too farfetched to me.

[arista]

The EU has tightened up the rules
to ensure, they have enough.

https://news.sky.com/story/eu-calls-...izens-12255152


[The proposals recommend more transparency
and reciprocity but do not go as far as including
a ban on exports to the UK.]

[Cherie]

Think Moderna is due soon so that should shore up supplies hopefully

Maybe if the EU got cracking using the supplies they have that would be a start for them

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Think Moderna is due soon so that should shore up supplies hopefully

Maybe if the EU got cracking using the supplies they have that would be a start for them

don't tell us what to do

vaccinating is difficult (for example like you said France, most are hesitant of vaccines in general) and you can't really force vaccine on anyone, that is not ethical

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

don't tell us what to do

vaccinating is difficult (for example like you said France, most are hesitant of vaccines in general) and you can't really force vaccine on anyone, that is not ethical

the stance is very peculiar, we wont use it but we don't want you to use it either

btw Nicky I am a EU citizen so I am part of the 'us'

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

the stance is very peculiar, we wont use it but we don't want you to use it either

btw Nicky I am a EU citizen so I am part of the 'us'

is it so difficult to understand what Merkel said, i mean really it has been proven the AstraZeneca doses what is in EU, is kinda a bad batch compared to the doses in the UK, where not many people or no one really complains about it

would you give a bad batch to other countries then?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

is it so difficult to understand what Merkel said, i mean really it has been proven the AstraZeneca doses what is in EU, is kinda a bad batch compared to the doses in the UK, where not many people or no one really complains about it

would you give a bad batch to other countries then?

what's happened, not heard anything about a bad batch, and given the EU are saying UK has not exported any vaccines, whatever you are talking about didn't come from the UK, are you talking about clots? or what

[arista]

Ref: A Massive tanker got stuck across
the Suez Canal
they managed to move it
with some tug boats

[Vanessa]

I'm so proud of the work we're doing with vaccinations.
It's just about the only thing we got right
But it could mean a return to some kind of normality, hopefully.

[arista]

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That Evergreen Tanker has now been moved by tug boats.

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