[Legend killer]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

I think there is a right to moan as I admit I was wrong. Going by what you say, if we started playing swash buckling football from Leicester at the weekend onwards, and we went onto win the title (no chance of either happening of course), you'd have no right to cheer any success under Van Gaal. When of course you would, you'd of just been wrong about Van Gaal.

I actually think we'd play better football under Giggs, tbh. I don't want him to take the job, but I bet we'd actually fashion more chances under him.

It's not exactly hard to fashion more then the 0 chances we are currently creating

I told you Fergie left this team in a state that would set us back 4-5 years
I told you Louis was not the answer with his philosophy nonsense
And im telling you now Giggs is 100% not the answer

Klopp would have been the ideal man in my honest opinion

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

It's not exactly hard to fashion more then the 0 chances we are currently creating

I told you Fergie left this team in a state that would set us back 4-5 years
I told you Louis was not the answer with his philosophy nonsense
And im telling you now Giggs is 100% not the answer

Klopp would have been the ideal man in my honest opinion

Klopp would of been brilliant, he was my first choice, but at the time there was no chance of him leaving Dortmund. Ancelotti is free but his league record is relatively poor. His cup record is top notch, however.

Guardiola would be my pick. He actually plays possession football that creates chances and uses a formation well. Louis constantly plays 4-2-3-1 and doesn't even utilise the formation properly. Our best form last season was playing 4-3-3 yet he decides to use 4-2-3-1 with two full backs that appear to be told to rarely get forward.

Giggs isn't the answer, it'd be terrible to appoint him, but I bet we'd be more entertaining under him.

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Yeah. It wasn't the ****show by Moyes that set us back at all. We are in transition...whether United fans like it or not. Deal with it. We finished 7th and 4th the last two seasons ffs. We aren't suddenly going to become world beaters.

Anyway. If the squad Fergie left is so **** then are you going to finally admit that he was working miracles by winning ****ing titles and you shouldn't have been bitching and crying?! It can't work both ways.

Nobody is after world beaters. Well, given the stupid amount spent maybe we should. Right now we play pathetic football. We have a manager who deems creating 2-3 chances sufficient. He sells Hernandez and gives that look to Giggs against Brugge after the sitter missed, yet continues with Rooney who has been far worse than anything Hernandez showed.

He's spent a fortune and yet our team has no depth and no outfield world class players really. His Plan B is hoof it to Fellaini.

He talks out of his arse. Last season it was 'philosophy', this season it's 'progress', hopefully next season it's P45.

[Brother Leon]

Yeah. It wasn't the ****show by Moyes that set us back at all. We are in transition...whether United fans like it or not. Deal with it. We finished 7th and 4th the last two seasons ffs. We aren't suddenly going to become world beaters.

Anyway. If the squad Fergie left is so **** then are you going to finally admit that he was working miracles by winning ****ing titles and you shouldn't have been bitching and crying?! It can't work both ways.

[Legend killer]

I never complained about our short term success with Fergie in his last couple of seasons I complained and rightfully proved that he was ****ing us up long term. Whether you want to admit I was right is up to you

[Shaun]

I like football

[James]

Originally Posted by Cameltoe and Wine

I like football

Draw...

Dynamo Kiev v Manchester City

Benfica v Zenit

PSV Eindhoven v Atletico Madrid

Juventus v Bayern Munich

Arsenal v Barcelona

Paris St-Germain v Chelsea

AS Roma v Real Madrid

Gent v Wolfsburg

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by James

Draw...

Dynamo Kiev v Manchester City

Benfica v Zenit

PSV Eindhoven v Atletico Madrid

Juventus v Bayern Munich

Arsenal v Barcelona

Paris St-Germain v Chelsea

AS Roma v Real Madrid

Gent v Wolfsburg

FFS

[MTVN]

Remember when United topped their CL group under Moyesy

[MTVN]

This United team sure is fearsome, Wolfsburg will have been quaking in their boots at the likes of Borthwick-Jackson and Chris Powell coming off the bench

[MTVN]

NALDO!!!!!!!!!!!

[Drew.]

****ing hell, its all happening

[Drew.]

God help us if we join United in the Europa tomorrow

[MTVN]

5 English teams in the Europa from tomorrow night, nightmare for the Prem fixtures

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by MTVN

5 English teams in the Europa from tomorrow night, nightmare for the Prem fixtures

You were saying?

[Black Dagger]

Cumming.

[Denver]

Thats the premier league down to 3 champions league spot now

[Drew.]

One of the great European nights.. Ozil continues to play like his peak Madrid days this season & Joel needs to play like he did tonight on a regular basis then we've got a real player on our hands.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Thurman Merman

One of the great European nights.. Ozil continues to play like his peak Madrid days this season & Joel needs to play like he did tonight on a regular basis then we've got a real player on our hands.

Cant believe some Arsenal fans want him sold. Three things, he gets goals, he provides assists and he tracks back. We need to keep him , he was great tonight./

[James]

Europa League draw.

Valencia v Rapid Vienna

Fiorentina v Tottenham Hotspur

Borussia Dortmund v FC Porto

Fenerbahce v Lokomotiv Moscow

Anderlecht v Olympiakos

Midtjylland v Manchester United

Augsburg v Liverpool

Sparta Prague v Krasnodar

Galatasaray v Lazio

Sion v Braga

Shakhtar Donetsk v Schalke

Marseille v Athletic Bilbao

Sevilla v Molde

Sporting Lisbon v Bayer Leverkusen

Villarreal v Napoli

Saint-Etienne v Basel

[Shaun]

Very doable this. Time to show suarez what he's missing

[Drew.]

Come on you then Catalan pricks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Drew.]

I like Barca we have a nice mutual respect between the two teams, they'll let us have this one

[Denver]

Liverpool getting a easy draw

[Crimson Dynamo]

man u losing to a team roughly the equivalent of Dag and Red at the mo

[Shaun]