[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

Actually a lot young people work hard for a living and a lot are looking for work and struggle to find jobs due to the state of the job market right now

[sampvt]

In my day if my dad didn't work we went hngry, In my day if I didn't work my kids went hungry. In these days if a man does not work, he has only to use his ipad or smart phone and get hundreds of benefit dollars to feed his habbits. \in my day, the dole office wasn't a place anyone liked to be seen. these days they hand out staff discounts and invites to the staff xmas parties for long term claimants. And just for the record, \I have paid hundreds of thousands in tax and never signed on for one penny also \I don't get a pension, my status does not qualify me for one as I earned my money playing abroad and have no duty paid over here. \I live off my savings and my witts.

[arista]

"Respect your elders" is a phrase that I have absolutely no time for at all."


TS is it because they Drive to Slow?


I was in a Car with a Young Lady Driver in Florida
and she was cussing at the old folks
it was shocking in a way

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Bull****

An excellent and well thought-out counter argument, elegantly stated. You have convinced me. Bravo.

[arista]

Originally Posted by sampvt

In my day if my dad didn't work we went hngry, In my day if I didn't work my kids went hungry. In these days if a man does not work, he has only to use his ipad or smart phone and get hundreds of benefit dollars to feed his habbits. \in my day, the dole office wasn't a place anyone liked to be seen. these days they hand out staff discounts and invites to the staff xmas parties for long term claimants. And just for the record, \I have paid hundreds of thousands in tax and never signed on for one penny also \I don't get a pension, my status does not qualify me for one as I earned my money playing abroad and have no duty paid over here. \I live off my savings and my witts.

Yes helped them later in Life

You Are Worthy

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. I would suggest reading less of the Sun, Express and the Mail and more of the very real facts and figures that depict a severe lack of opportunities for many underprivileged people (not all of them young), and an abundance of exploitation and systematic abuse they face as a result.

Originally Posted by Firewire

Not all middle aged people work either

Young people are the root of all evil though! Scum!!!!!

Originally Posted by Smithy

Maybe the previous generation should have raised this one better then

ooOOooooOoHhHhhhhh you went there

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Actually a lot young people work hard for a living and a lot are looking for work and struggle to find jobs due to the state of the job market right now

Of course they do,no one is disputing that ,but c'mon there are a certain section that do NOT want to work or better themselves , they prefer life on benefits,some even admit that, those are the people I am talking about.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

An excellent and well thought-out counter argument, elegantly stated. You have convinced me. Bravo.

[billy123]

It does quite amuse me that some young people haven't got the awareness to realise that before they know it some little brat will be cringing at the things they say and do and calling them outdated.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Actually a lot young people work hard for a living and a lot are looking for work and struggle to find jobs due to the state of the job market right now

And a lot don't

[user104658]

Originally Posted by sampvt

In my day if my dad didn't work we went hngry, In my day if I didn't work my kids went hungry. In these days if a man does not work, he has only to use his ipad or smart phone and get hundreds of benefit dollars to feed his habbits. \in my day, the dole office wasn't a place anyone liked to be seen. these days they hand out staff discounts and invites to the staff xmas parties for long term claimants. And just for the record, \I have paid hundreds of thousands in tax and never signed on for one penny also \I don't get a pension, my status does not qualify me for one as I earned my money playing abroad and have no duty paid over here. \I live off my savings and my witts.

In that case, you are lucky that "in your day" and "in your dad's day" there was work available and that it paid enough to support a family.

Your rhetoric about the "party dole office" is so out-of-touch and ludicrous that it doesn't even dignify a response, and it is massively offensive to anyone who has had to / is having to degrade themselves by signing on even though they are fully capable of working, and have every desire to find permanent full-time employment. There are hundreds of thousands of those people in this country right now, whether that "sits well with you" or not. It's a fact. There are some people who can and do exploit the system, that is also true, but to suggest that anyone who doesn't just "go and get a job" falls into that category only demonstrates your own complete ignorance of the current world of work.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bobnot

It does quite amuse me that some young people haven't got the awareness to realise that before they know it some little brat will be cringing at the things they say and do and calling them outdated.

Those young people, presumably, being the modern counterpart of the same inflexible morons who are now outdated because they couldn't move with the times?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I tend to assume that anyone who has made it to their 70's still blindly following hand-me-down opinions is a bit of a lost cause, especially if they do so forcefully and aggressively. To be entirely blunt... it's more efficient to just wait for them to die, and work on the younger generations, than it is to try to change them.

..okay...well their grandchildren might want to communicate with them about their view though because they don't get many grandparents....if there is any mind-set changes, then they will be from the 'intolerant' and only through understanding and mutual respect/tolerance of each other, no matter how opposing their views...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

In my day if my dad didn't work we went hngry, In my day if I didn't work my kids went hungry. In these days if a man does not work, he has only to use his ipad or smart phone and get hundreds of benefit dollars to feed his habbits. \in my day, the dole office wasn't a place anyone liked to be seen. these days they hand out staff discounts and invites to the staff xmas parties for long term claimants. And just for the record, \I have paid hundreds of thousands in tax and never signed on for one penny also \I don't get a pension, my status does not qualify me for one as I earned my money playing abroad and have no duty paid over here. \I live off my savings and my witts.

My Dad worked all his life, HE kept his family not the state,my husband has worked everyday since he left school, no ones brought his kids up, its called SELF PRIDE sadly lacking today Sam

[Firewire]

anyway back to str8 h8

I've never seen a genuine case of it so as far as I can see it doesn't really exist. If someone can convince me otherwise then I'll take it into consideration.

But in any case, there is a difference between generations and I don't see why it's such a deal to educate to make people see differently.

But it's interesting that employment has been brought up when this isn't a thread about employment...

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

My Dad worked all his life, HE kept his family not the state,my husband has worked everyday since he left school, no ones brought his kids up, its called SELF PRIDE sadly lacking today Sam

and that's good, I'm glad you're proud of your family and your husband.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

My Dad worked all his life, HE kept his family not the state,my husband has worked everyday since he left school, no ones brought his kids up, its called SELF PRIDE sadly lacking today Sam

It's called "more available employment due to less competition, less automation, and the presence of industry". If all else failed, there were always abundant manual labour jobs and factories requiring production line staff. That is no longer the case. Your husband and father did not grow up in a consumer economy. The fact that you can't accept that the world we live in now has completely changed, and that you now actually seem to have ZERO understanding of the realities of employment, is no one's problem but your own.

[Ninastar]

changed my mind, this thread it making me hate straight people

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Of course they do,no one is disputing that ,but c'mon there are a certain section that do NOT want to work or better themselves , they prefer life on benefits,some even admit that, those are the people I am talking about.

You are talking about a tiny percentage (under 1%) of another tiny percentage of people of which we pay job seekers allowance to, which is a minute part of a huge welfare spending bill, largely made up by pensions. The idea that there are millions of people lying around watching Cash in the Attic rather than getting a job is a convenient media myth. These people are a tiny minority and do not represent anyone or any community, nor do they have any kind of seismic effect on our economy.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Chaos

changed my mind, this thread it making me hate straight people

Heterophobic!

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Chaos

changed my mind, this thread it making me hate straight people

Down with straights tbh

[bots]

If I may, as a fully paid up straight member of the old farts club. I would like to point out that the issues around homophobia haven't changed in a couple of generations. People were accepting and compassionate back in the day too, its always been minorities that took issue and caused problems.

Each generation has its own challenges, they are not comparable. I will leave it at that, as there is no way I'm getting in to another phobia debate

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's called "more available employment due to less competition, less automation, and the presence of industry". If all else failed, there were always abundant manual labour jobs and factories requiring production line staff. That is no longer the case. Your husband and father did not grow up in a consumer economy. The fact that you can't accept that the world we live in now has completely changed, and that you now actually seem to have ZERO understanding of the realities of employment, is no one's problem but your own.

Its called PRIDE .......lacking today in young people, they think the world owes them ,and it doesn't ,there is a job out there for everyone who wants one

[Ninastar]

down with str8whitemales!!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Chaos

changed my mind, this thread it making me hate straight people

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