[reece(:]

Good god I've read this thread in it's entirety and really wish I didn't

Jack

[nonstop]

Poor him.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Same here

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

But I have seen research showing that psychopathy is innate. Should psychopaths have all their human rights and be kept out of jail because they didn't choose to be psychopaths?

So you've both chosen to be straight then? As in, you recognise that you have gay feelings but you're choosing to suppress them? Or is it just gay people who are choosing their sexuality, because they're psychopaths? Really, this thread is a total mess

[jet]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Could you point me to the research papers you have read?

I have read many, but this is the most scientific and the largest and most recent study to date:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action...33291714002451

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by jet

I have read many, but this is the most scientific and the largest and most recent study to date:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action...33291714002451

Could I read your copy because I am not paying Ł30 for it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Could I read your copy because I am not paying Ł30 for it.

You don't have to pay for the results which concluded homosexuality is innate.
There is enough info there anyway and plenty more online elsewhere which is free.

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Wow

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by jet

You don't have to pay for the results which concluded homosexuality is innate.
There is enough info there anyway and plenty more online elsewhere which is free.

please post proof or yield

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

I'm actually speechless at this comment

[Black Dagger]

I feel like I've lost all my brain cells.

Totally chose to have a mental breakdown in my teen years because I thought it would be a laugh to like dick

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Same here, Ive popped the kettle on in case she calls in mine ,Im very sociable

wow at this ignorance

[jet]

Originally Posted by sampvt

please post proof or yield

I posted a link a few posts up in which it clearly states homosexuality is innate. It is the results of the latest and biggest study to date.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by jet

I posted a link a few posts up in which it clearly states homosexuality is innate. It is the results of the latest and biggest study to date.

Not conclusive though is it. It actually states in the summary that the results conflict with other studies.

[jet]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Not conclusive though is it. It actually states in the summary that the results conflict with other studies.

Yes, earlier studies. That study is the latest and largest ever carried out and it concludes homosexuality is innate.
I read a fantastic piece on homosexuality in animals a few years ago. Most animal species have gay members too. If I can find it I'll post a link. My neighbour has a gay dog by the way.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, earlier studies. That study is the latest and largest ever carried out and it concludes homosexuality is innate.
I read a fantastic piece on homosexuality in animals a few years ago. Most animal species have gay members too. If I can find it I'll post a link. My neighbour has a gay dog by the way.

Perhaps she could adopt a child for it.

Even if we accept that it is innate, it still doesn't make gay couples adopting right. They can't naturally have children.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Perhaps she could adopt a child for it.

Even if we accept that it is innate, it still doesn't make gay couples adopting right. They can't naturally have children.

[iRyan]

Give me a break

He stuck by that incredibly ignorant and offensive comment and he's living with the consequences, it's nobody else's fault but his own

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Even if it was a choice, who gives a ****? Why can't another human being just love another human being?

[zakman440]

at this thread tbh.

[jet]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Perhaps she could adopt a child for it.

Even if we accept that it is innate, it still doesn't make gay couples adopting right. They can't naturally have children.

No they can't. Which is sad and all the more reason why they should be able to adopt. Being born gay shouldn't stop anyone from having what those who aren't gay can have. It's unfair. People celebrate when a heterosexual couple have a child, when a gay couple want a child to love, they have to go through so much and get blasted for it.

[iRyan]

And it's such a shame people think like that meanwhile there are hundreds of thousands of children in foster care desperate for the love and care from a family of any kind. Gay couples are FAR more likely to adopt than straight couples. They should be encouraged not discouraged, when there are so many children out there without a home and loving family. Winton's word were truly sickening and self-righteous.

[sampvt]

Gay couples have been around for a while but underground. Its just recently since the gay marriage thing, that established relationships have been accepted and some have not yet been indoctrinated into accepting that these gay alliances are as stable as straight marriages. I strongly believe that most gay alliances are actually proving to be stronger but I am in the minority and it takes time to educate.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

That's called denial and being in the closet.

..also in many cases, not so much being in denial but being of a generation when being in the closet was the safest place to be because of the lack of acceptance and 'gay' actually being illegal.../not that long ago really...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

No they can't. Which is sad and all the more reason why they should be able to adopt. Being born gay shouldn't stop anyone from having what those who aren't gay can have. It's unfair. People celebrate when a heterosexual couple have a child, when a gay couple want a child to love, they have to go through so much and get blasted for it.

..they really do, it's a very long process..well adoption in general for any couple is and should be..it's important to asses the right parents/the right child(ren) etc but it's much more intrusive and lengthy for a homosexual couple than it is for heterosexual partnerships and also from my experience, much more so than a single parent adopting...their sexual lives are not intruded on in anything like the same way...I know a gay couple who have recently gone through the process and what they went through...

..children are all different obviously, just like we all are and some will thrive and be best suited to male/female parents, some to single parents and equally, some to homosexual parents..each parenting can have something a child needs, specific to them...and the 'matching' is mutual so the children..(obviously not babies..) choose those gay parents as well, with several meetings...but they're not even introduced in the first place, if it's felt that it's not a parenting situation that would be suitable for that child/those children, their character etc...I have to say as well, again only my own personal experience of maybe 40/50ish foster children at our school through the time that I've been there..?..a very high percentage of them were adoptable and in that sad situation because of biological heterosexual parents, who they suffered child abuse from...either one of, or both parents...

[Ammi]

..I would say that denying a child an opportunity of having terrific parents/terrific homosexual parents because it's felt that's a family they would particularly thrive in..is more akin to 'child abuse'....or certainly not looking at a child's best interest/welfare etc...and because of a perceived idea of what a family should be/a nuclear family, type thing...families come in all shapes and sizes and can equally work or not work, but nothing to do with sexuality at all...