[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's no one's fault but his own.

that's just not true. I don't like the guy, don't agree with his views, but he is entitled to voice them without being victimised, hounded and persecuted.

Not nice terms are they? but they are all true.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

that's just not true. I don't like the guy, don't agree with his views, but he is entitled to voice them without being victimised, hounded and persecuted.

Not nice terms are they? but they are all true.

None of those things applied to him, opinions are a two way street Sam, he can't expect to have extreme opinions and expect people to be supportive. He hasn't been victimised or hounded or persecuted.

He said awful things and then he tried to shirk the responsibility of saying them. It's his own fault.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

None of those things applied to him, opinions are a two way street Sam, he can't expect to have extreme opinions and expect people to be supportive. He hasn't been victimised or hounded or persecuted.

He said awful things and then he tried to shirk the responsibility of saying them. It's his own fault.

He did nothing wrong in expressing those views. He has been publicly vilified for sport by producers that set it up, something that was not his own fault.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

He did nothing wrong in expressing those views. He has been publicly vilified for sport by producers that set it up, something that was not his own fault.

Not at all. If you express extreme views then you must be prepared to receive unfavorable reactions. He could have handled that task better by being direct when people questioned him but instead he dodged every question instead of clarifying his position and he did the same in the interview because he knows what he is.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Not at all. If you express extreme views then you must be prepared to receive unfavorable reactions. He could have handled that task better by being direct when people questioned him but instead he dodged every question instead of clarifying his position and he did the same in the interview because he knows what he is.

Are you honestly saying you don't think he was set up by producers? I find that hard to believe. There is absolutely nothing wrong in opposing his views, I would do that with gusto, but I would never manufacture a situation that had at its heart the intention to humiliate and publicly vilify another human being. That is too much for me, and I'm proud to say it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Are you honestly saying you don't think he was set up by producers? I find that hard to believe. There is absolutely nothing wrong in opposing his views, I would do that with gusto, but I would never manufacture a situation that had at its heart the intention to humiliate and publicly vilify another human being. That is too much for me, and I'm proud to say it.

He knew what he was getting into and why he had been offered a place on the show and that's apparent by his VT. That task wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did if he simply clarified his view on the matter but instead he dodged all questions regarding it, he chose to be evasive and he chose to go on CBB despite knowing that he'd obviously be set up because his homophobia is the only reason why anyone knows who he is.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

that's just not true. I don't like the guy, don't agree with his views, but he is entitled to voice them without being victimised, hounded and persecuted.

Not nice terms are they? but they are all true.

Exactly ,my view too,such double standards with people ,look how people take the pee out of fat and ugly people,is that acceptable? seems so, but why is that any different than Winston and his views on gay people ?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Exactly ,my view too,such double standards with people ,look how people take the pee out of fat and ugly people,is that acceptable? seems so, but why is that any different than Winston and his views on gay people ?

Umm, everything?

The former is bullying, the latter is people reacting to a bigot's views which he chose to air. If you can't tell the difference between the two then I worry for you.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Umm, everything?

The former is bullying, the latter is people reacting to a bigot's views which he chose to air. If you can't tell the difference between the two then I worry for you.

So what is YOUR solution ?if Winston has those views how are you going to stop that? tie him to a couple of trucks and drive off in different directions? why would people react so angrily if they are doing nothing wrong ? ignore those sort of people with those views ,it's not hard,you don't have to share his views, we get some of you are annoyed ,that's just life everything doesn't happen just as we want it to.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So what is YOUR solution ?if Winston has those views how are you going to stop that? tie him to a couple of trucks and drive off in different directions? why would people react so angrily if they are doing nothing wrong ? ignore those sort of people with those views ,it's not hard,you don't have to share his views, we get some of you are annoyed ,that's just life everything doesn't happen just as we want it to.

...he was on Big Brother, that's not really the point

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MB.

...he was on Big Brother, that's not really the point

BB,KNEW what he was like,he was put in there to boost ratings,now he is no longer needed,BB has thier controversy.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

BB,KNEW what he was like,he was put in there to boost ratings,now he is no longer needed,BB has thier controversy.

He's still the homophobic one, and he still said homophobic things in his VT. I know how much you want him to look like some sort of heroic martyr but actually he's just a bit of a **** who got his just deserts?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Umm, everything?

The former is bullying, the latter is people reacting to a bigot's views which he chose to air. If you can't tell the difference between the two then I worry for you.

Katie Hopkins is a bully and a bigot yet still adored
I'm sick of double standards , she's a nasty ugly rat yet gets praised for being "honest" since when is judgemental and racist being honest?? She slags everyone off in the most horrible way
She even stuck her big gargoyle nose in Danny dyers love life just because his wife proposed instead which has nothing to do with her !

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Katie Hopkins is a bully and a bigot yet still adored
I'm sick of double standards , she's a nasty ugly rat yet gets praised for being "honest" since when is judgemental and racist being honest?? She slags everyone off in the most horrible way
She even stuck her big gargoyle nose in Danny dyers love life just because his wife proposed instead which has nothing to do with her !

No Katie Hopkins is not adored

[arista]

Originally Posted by LukeB

No Katie Hopkins is not adored

Young Luke
no


Democracy means
she has FANS

FACT

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LukeB

No Katie Hopkins is not adored

And yet the gargoyle still got to the final and came second!!!!
She brags about all her Twitter followers
People kept her in the house because for some reason they think she's funny
Even though she's an old witch with a face like dirty cement
So clearly she's popular otherwise how else did she get to final??

And the fact that both her and Katie price were the final 2 just shows how retarded things are

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And yet the gargoyle still got to the final and came second!!!!
She brags about all her Twitter followers
People kept her in the house because for some reason they think she's funny
Even though she's an old witch with a face like dirty cement
So clearly she's popular otherwise how else did she get to final??

And the fact that both her and Katie price were the final 2 just shows how retarded things are

I mean Katie Hopkins is hated by loads, she would have went if it was VTE... VTS saves the big characters sometimes. Oh and twitter, you can buy followers now. So they could be fake? haters/trolls follow people too as Natasha Giggs stated that back in 2012.