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Old 07-01-2021, 11:22 AM #1
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He did, without being explicit. It's called plausible deniability.

"Plausible deniability is the ability of people, typically senior officials in a formal or informal chain of command, to deny knowledge of or responsibility for any damnable actions committed by others in an organizational hierarchy because of a lack or absence of evidence that can confirm their participation, even if they were personally involved in or at least willfully ignorant of the actions."

Trump relies on this concept a lot.
You'll never take back your country with weakness - Trump yesterday

Lets have a trial by combat - Giuliani yesterday

Unless he said "everyone storm the capitol" then people will cognitive dissonance themselves into oblivion rather than admit they could have been wrong about trump all along.
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you'll never take back your country with weakness - trump yesterday

lets have a trial by combat - giuliani yesterday

unless he said "everyone storm the capitol" then people will cognitive dissonance themselves into oblivion rather than admit they could have been wrong about trump all along.
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Even wkth a few random examples of the police doing things they shouldn't during the riots, they obviously didn't handle them properly, they should never have been allowed to escalate as fwr as they did.
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Even wkth a few random examples of the police doing things they shouldn't during the riots, they obviously didn't handle them properly, they should never have been allowed to escalate as fwr as they did.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-george-floyd

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...unmarked-cars/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53453077

BLM was the result of decades of abuse, not decades of right-wing white grievance politics.
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BLM was the result of decades of abuse, not decades of right-wing white grievance politics.
Doesn't excuse inflicting riots upon innocent people. If they can't protest peacefully, they should take it to the police and lawmakers.
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Doesn't excuse inflicting riots upon innocent people. If they can't protest peacefully, they should take it to the police and lawmakers.
Who are you referring to? Who needs to protest peacefully?
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Who are you referring to? Who needs to protest peacefully?
The rioters from over the summer and the MAGA thugs.
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Doesn't excuse inflicting riots upon innocent people. If they can't protest peacefully, they should take it to the police and lawmakers.
It didn't happen in a vacuum. People have been putting up with this for decades and centuries. After every police murder they were lectured, they were dismissed with blue lives matter and all lives matter. The fact you're both siding this is weird tbh.
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It didn't happen in a vacuum. People have been putting up with this for decades and centuries. After every police murder they were lectured, they were dismissed with blue lives matter and all lives matter. The fact you're both siding this is weird tbh.
It's an easy thing to both-side, people who think it's okay to loot and burn aren't the "good guys", even if there are problems with law enforcement. But if they're gonna use violence, it shouldn't be aimed at innocent people who have nothing to do with their problems.
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Niamh!! How weird.. I came on to post the exact same pic.

These people are revolting. I honestly don’t know what the answer is to dealing with these sort of twats, but they’re everywhere, the live among us
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These people are revolting. I honestly don’t know what the answer is to dealing with these sort of twats, but they’re everywhere, the live among us
Great minds Madness going on in the world right now, the end is nigh....
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Why does that dude on the right look exactly like Tony Robinson though?
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Why does that dude on the right look exactly like Tony Robinson though?
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He certainly had a cunning plan.
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and why is a young Nick Cotton standing behind him?
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Terrorists, the lot of them. It's gross that most of them were let go without charges. If they were black, there would have been scores of people shot dead, yet they can't arrest these people for committing multiple felonies? For engaging in a terrorist act?

And before someone disengenuously makes out that I wanted a bunch of maga morons shot dead, I don't want that, I just want peaceful BLM protesters to be treated as well as violent white terrorists seemingly are.
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Somebody said how did they lose control of the US Capitol to the cast of Duck Dynasty.
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I know there's some quite serious systemic issues of trust in the fabric of America's politics and media, but you'd have to wonder if even half the yee-haws who showed up yesterday really believe in this stuff. The reasons for the news media to make a big deal out of this are sincere and just, but there's another angle here. And that is that after near on two months of giving it socks, there simply wasn't enough conviction there in the end from Trump's support base.

Jesus, if I thought Ireland's elections outcomes were being genuinely manipulated to such an extent I'd probably be chained to a government building myself. With respect to the disgrace that it was, surely it pales in comparison - thankfully - to the disgrace it could have been. Most of the crowd showed up for a good ol' time. Their Glastonbury. A relatively tiny minority done a smash and grab on government buildings that seemed to last about as long as a few games of Fifa.

There's no doubt Trumpism is here to stay, and there'll doubtless be future threats and violence, but it's worth remembering in between all the shock and outrage how utterly toothless most of this lot are. The t-shirts, the chanting. It's the "**** everything establishment" brigade having a tailgate party.
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