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You do realise that the left in the US is offering healthcare, free education, and more equality. There's a reason that the right hates these things. Why do you think that is?

We don't have to live in this cesspit world of survival.
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Republicans have defended the right of every private bakery to refuse to sell wedding cakes to gay folks. This is the same thing; private businesses can pretty much do what they like (within the law).
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Republicans have defended the right of every private bakery to refuse to sell wedding cakes to gay folks. This is the same thing; private businesses can pretty much do what they like (within the law).
That's not true, they'll sell them a wedding cake, but they just don't do that specific design. It's the same as me going into Macdonslds and asking for a cherry pie and they tell me they don't do them, but they do apple pie.
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Bemused is a more accurate word than hate.

They can't understand how they'd let themselves be divided and conquered. Why they constantly defend the establishment against their own people.

They'd rather defend big tech billionaires at the expense of freedom.

Crazy times we're living in. But historic times too.
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...there are huge differences with the bakers and their refusal to bake the cake, though...the bakers didn’t apply any circumstances that people would be refused their products as in being a specific sexuality ...because it would have been illegal to do that/ to show prejudice in that way...no prejudice was shown with Trump, he was allowed to use the Twitter platform...but he abused the rules of it so was banned...it’s a better analogy to something like TiBB, surely...there is a clear and defined list of rules on social media platforms and encouraging violence is in breach of those rules...
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Difference is one is protesting for equality the other are bitter men children who still get breast fed by their mother
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Peaceful protesting is fine. Rioting isn't. It doesn't matter what they claimed to be "protesting" for if they take part in the riots.
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Peaceful protesting is fine. Rioting isn't. It doesn't matter what they claimed to be "protesting" for if they take part in the riots.
Yet storming the capital with bombs, ties to kidnap senators and a noose to hang them with is A-okay.
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Yet storming the capital with bombs, ties to kidnap senators and a noose to hang them with is A-okay.
When did I say that?
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By downplaying terrorism by comparing it to protests. You're so twisted out of shape about BLM that you're basically defending terrorism by laughing at a picture of a noose being set up on Capitol grounds and acting like BLM are still somehow worse.
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Its was confirmed a lot of the riots were started by trumpsters
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Except these bakeries offered custom designs and they turned down gay designs because of homophobia. Bit different to going into a McDonald's an ordering something that's not on the menu.
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Except these bakeries offered custom designs and they turned down gay designs because of homophobia. Bit different to going into a McDonald's an ordering something that's not on the menu.
They’re entitled to their religious beliefs... if they’re a Christian bakery they have every right to refuse special made designs that go against their beliefs... the bigger question is why would a gay couple be going to a religious bakery for their specially designed cake? They’re likely looking for a payout or for problems on purpose
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They’re entitled to their religious beliefs... if they’re a Christian bakery they have every right to refuse special made designs that go against their beliefs... the bigger question is why would a gay couple be going to a religious bakery for their specially designed cake? They’re likely looking for a payout or for problems on purpose
If that's the case then I do hope you never complain about Trump's 'freedom of speech' being somehow limited by not being allowed on a social network. Wouldn't want to be a hypocrite now, would you?
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Just to add my two cents... I think there is a comparison to be drawn with the BLM civil unrest tbqfh.

I find those actions far more personally understandable - but there is a huge difference between what is understandable and having empathy for anger... And making allowances for/excusing/encouraging violent uprising. I know that a lot of the BLM protests were peaceful and turned violent because of the actions of the authorities - but its disingenuous to claim that there were none that were deliberately actively violent. It shouldn't be allowed or excused in any form. All it does is legitimise others doing the same. "But my rioters are the good guys" just isn't going to work going forward. It should never have been cheered on as a positive.

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Just to add my two cents... I think there is a comparison to be drawn with the BLM civil unrest tbqfh.

I find those actions far more personally understandable - but there is a huge difference between what is understandable and having empathy for anger... And making allowances for/excusing/encouraging violent uprising. I know that a lot of the BLM protests were peaceful and turned violent because of the actions of the authorities - but its disingenuous to claim that there were none that were deliberately actively violent. It shouldn't be allowed or excused in any form. All it does is legitimise others doing the same. "But my rioters are the good guys" just isn't going to work going forward. It should never have been cheered on as a positive.
I dont think many people have made the point - 'My rioters are the good guys'. I've seen it outlined that fighting against racial injustice is a more noble cause than rioting because Trump lost. I'd expect most people to condemn any kind of violence.

Large gatherings of people attract an unsavoury element that take advantage of a situation. No matter what the cause or occasion, they'll always show up.

To give a terrible analogy, do the pickpockets at Glastonbury have anything to do with the official event organisers? We'd all agree, no but they still show up every year. I think I'd add to your post, the many attempts to associate the violence directly with BLM is equally disingenuous. As you point out, in many cases it was the actions of the authorities that caused many of the problems.
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I dont think many people have made the point - 'My rioters are the good guys'. I've seen it outlined that fighting against racial injustice is a more noble cause than rioting because Trump lost. I'd expect most people to condemn any kind of violence.

Large gatherings of people attract an unsavoury element that take advantage of a situation. No matter what the cause or occasion, they'll always show up.

To give a terrible analogy, do the pickpockets at Glastonbury have anything to do with the official event organisers? We'd all agree, no but they still show up every year. I think I'd add to your post, the many attempts to associate the violence directly with BLM is equally disingenuous. As you point out, in many cases it was the actions of the authorities that caused many of the problems.
Pretty much, no one defends the looting but the right are intent to make out that all BLM is is violent looting when it's not the case. What happened at Capitol though? That was nothing but a violent attack on Democracy itself and it was designed to be that from the start.
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