[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Even on the BBC news they still keep saying "she " & "trans woman" .

This is a MALE rapist & HE raped HIS victims.

Thats the BBC for ya ~ turned into unwatchable news years ago.

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Originally Posted by hijaxers

Thats the BBC for ya ~ turned into unwatchable news years ago.

This is sadly true

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

It’s offensive to keep calling him transgender.

Nah it's not, tranners can commit crimes

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nah it's not, tranners can commit crimes

Yeah but He's not trans

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

It’s offensive to keep calling him transgender.

Of course it is offensive, at least you are getting to the point of what women have been pointing out for years while being abused and called bigots and TERFS

[arista]

Moved to a Male Prison.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Male prison, however....

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Male prison, however....Attachment 5561

Pathetic...And anyone who says otherwise sees women as 2nd class citizens.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

JK Roasts Sturgeon



She tweeted: 'So in Nicola Sturgeon’s Scotland, trans women AREN’T women if they’re convicted double rapists, like Adam ‘Isla Bryson’ Graham.

'However, trans woman and paedophile Katie Dolatowski, who covertly filmed a 12-year-old and attempted to rape a 10-year-old, both offences committed in women’s public bathrooms, IS a woman and remains in the women’s prison from which Adam Graham is to be removed.

'Never forget, Sturgeon, her government and supporters have insisted that it is ludicrous to imagine anyone would dress in women’s clothes to get access to vulnerable women and girls. Wouldn’t happen. Everyone is who they say they are. To question this is hate'.

She then quoted George Orwell's 1984: 'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ns-prison.html

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

JK Roasts Sturgeon



She tweeted: 'So in Nicola Sturgeon’s Scotland, trans women AREN’T women if they’re convicted double rapists, like Adam ‘Isla Bryson’ Graham.

'However, trans woman and paedophile Katie Dolatowski, who covertly filmed a 12-year-old and attempted to rape a 10-year-old, both offences committed in women’s public bathrooms, IS a woman and remains in the women’s prison from which Adam Graham is to be removed.

'Never forget, Sturgeon, her government and supporters have insisted that it is ludicrous to imagine anyone would dress in women’s clothes to get access to vulnerable women and girls. Wouldn’t happen. Everyone is who they say they are. To question this is hate'.

She then quoted George Orwell's 1984: 'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ns-prison.html

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

JK Roasts Sturgeon



She tweeted: 'So in Nicola Sturgeon’s Scotland, trans women AREN’T women if they’re convicted double rapists, like Adam ‘Isla Bryson’ Graham.

'However, trans woman and paedophile Katie Dolatowski, who covertly filmed a 12-year-old and attempted to rape a 10-year-old, both offences committed in women’s public bathrooms, IS a woman and remains in the women’s prison from which Adam Graham is to be removed.

'Never forget, Sturgeon, her government and supporters have insisted that it is ludicrous to imagine anyone would dress in women’s clothes to get access to vulnerable women and girls. Wouldn’t happen. Everyone is who they say they are. To question this is hate'.

She then quoted George Orwell's 1984: 'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ns-prison.html

Sturgeon needs to resign ! . She has created such a mess !.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

But for many children struggling with their sense of self, transition is a way of
escaping a truth – or many truths – which frighten or distress them. It may
be an attempt to escape being sexualised. It may be an attempt to escape
social awkwardness. It may be an attempt to nullify their homosexuality. Or
an attempt to flee the body in which they were physically or sexually abused.
Making it easier for young people to transition – by permitting children to
self-ID, by making it hard for doctors and therapists to have meaningful
conversations with them – lengthens and ruts the road to recovery.

We cannot do this to children. The increasing willingness to lie to children
speaks to an intellectual sickness that has been plaguing Britain for some
time now. Nick Timothy is correct when he says that only facts can cure this
sickness: the ship will stabilise, so long as we do not renege on a few of the
‘common-sense’ facts.

These lies – that sex in humans is not a binary, that transition is reversible,
that men can get pregnant – appear noble from the outside, but the pain of
truth is temporary compared to the longevity of a lie's influence.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ws-would-have/

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[Cherry Christmas]

She said the rights of the 40 other women inside at the time were sacrificed for two trans convicts.

She said: “When I arrived in prison I was terrified, disorientated, ashamed and just really missing my children and worrying about not being there for them.

“When I realised I was to be housed with two men I felt total panic, it was like a wave of fear crashing over me - then I found out one was a murderer and the other someone with a history of violence against women.

“I just wanted to keep my head down but I was feeling increasingly suicidal.

“I will never forget the first time I found myself confronted with this huge man.

“He was in prison for domestic abuse against his female partner and yet here he was being allowed to intimidate women every day.

“We were told his name was Laura and that we would need to call him by that name, while the murderer was called Alex.

“I felt like if I was to misgender them it would be me who would be getting into trouble and possibly having my sentence lengthened.

“We didn’t have showers in our cells and so we had to shower in the communal shower block, so women who were traumatised and vulnerable had to be naked and shower with men in their spaces.



Nah this will never happen...you silly women with your bigoted views

Nicola Sturgeon should be locked up for a week with men pretending to be women see how she gets on

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

She said the rights of the 40 other women inside at the time were sacrificed for two trans convicts.

She said: “When I arrived in prison I was terrified, disorientated, ashamed and just really missing my children and worrying about not being there for them.

“When I realised I was to be housed with two men I felt total panic, it was like a wave of fear crashing over me - then I found out one was a murderer and the other someone with a history of violence against women.

“I just wanted to keep my head down but I was feeling increasingly suicidal.

“I will never forget the first time I found myself confronted with this huge man.

“He was in prison for domestic abuse against his female partner and yet here he was being allowed to intimidate women every day.

“We were told his name was Laura and that we would need to call him by that name, while the murderer was called Alex.

“I felt like if I was to misgender them it would be me who would be getting into trouble and possibly having my sentence lengthened.

“We didn’t have showers in our cells and so we had to shower in the communal shower block, so women who were traumatised and vulnerable had to be naked and shower with men in their spaces.



Nah this will never happen...you silly women with your bigoted views

Nicola Sturgeon should be locked up for a week with men pretending to be women see how she gets on

I saw a TikTok earlier trying to justify it all by saying that the women in prison are going to be "big, also violent women" who can hold their own so that makes it less of an issue. Infuriating. The truth is that it's far worse than pretty much anywhere else for it to be a prison!

The VAST majority of women in prisons, at least in the UK, are there on drugs charges. The vast majority of women who are involved with drugs / drug dealing have been abused and assaulted by men throughout their entire lives and many of them are in there having been violently forced into the world of drugs by an abusive male partner. The levels of trauma, especially trauma linked to men, is going to be 100x higher in a women's prison than pretty much ANYWHERE else. It is the absolute LAST place that any male-bodied person should be locked in with them... let alone male-bodied people who have a history of violence against women. It's utter madness.

[arista]

[Livia]

The subject of this thread is neither a woman nor a transwoman. He is a parody of a woman.

[bots]

that is what highlights how far society has disappeared into the vortex. The guy is obviously a man and perpetrated his crimes as a man. If the crims don't want issues with prisons, they shouldn't do the crime

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

that is what highlights how far society has disappeared into the vortex. The guy is obviously a man and perpetrated his crimes as a man. If the crims don't want issues with prisons, they shouldn't do the crime

Exactly and a fairly succinct way around a lot of it would just be to say, when sentenced you're sentenced based on who you were at the time of the crime, not at the time of the trial or sentencing. That would remove this loophole, at least.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Exactly and a fairly succinct way around a lot of it would just be to say, when sentenced you're sentenced based on who you were at the time of the crime, not at the time of the trial or sentencing. That would remove this loophole, at least.

it's also being inconsistent with other legal trial fundamentals. In being sentenced, you can only serve the maximum time that was applicable at the time the crime was committed, now thay are saying they can change some of the parameters as it suits them

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Sturgeon has egg on her face .

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Exactly and a fairly succinct way around a lot of it would just be to say, when sentenced you're sentenced based on who you were at the time of the crime, not at the time of the trial or sentencing. That would remove this loophole, at least.

Is that what happens with someone convicted of something when they were to young to go to adult jail, but at the time of sentencing they are old enough to go to adult jail?

I see loophole.

[user104658]

At the very least, it highlights quite clearly why the amendment to the law that the SNP was seeking was a massive mis-step. I often see the argument; "would someone really pose and live as a woman for 2 years in order to gain access to women's spaces?". I still say yes there are a very small number of predatory men who absolutely would switch gender full-time if it made predation easier... but there is some logic in the argument. It would be a major commitment.

...but would a predatory man pose as trans for three months for disingenuous reasons? Of course they would. It's 3 months... 12/13 weeks... it's no time at all! Saying "I've been living as X/Y/Z for three months" means absolutely nothing ... 3 months passes in the blink of an eye. You might as well have no time element at all and just say you can do it whenever you want, or rather, abandon the concept of woman-only safe spaces entirely.

I've even seen some people try to argue that we "don't need them" . If we didn't need them, they would never have existed in the first place.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

its a huge rid neck for Nicola

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its a huge rid neck for Nicola

It will go nicely with her alcoholic looking bloated red face then