[Me. I Am Salman]

I thought it was quite interesting and had great acting. Not offensive in the slightest.

[Kizzy]

There was no 'pre show hysteria' and I am not eating my words either.
I did not find it funny, it was touching in parts but thats it. In fact I think he ripped the character off a female comedian who did a sketch of herself as a boy, can't remember what the show was called at all, I just remember she wore glasses that made her eyes look massive and said 'no nana' a lot.
Karl pilkington looked and sounded just like karl pilkington....
It was predictable and boring.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kizzy

There was no 'pre show hysteria' and I am not eating my words either.
I did not find it funny, it was touching in parts but thats it. In fact I think he ripped the character off a female comedian who did a sketch of herself as a boy, can't remember what the show was called at all, I just remember she wore glasses that made her eyes look massive and said 'no nana' a lot.
Karl pilkington looked and sounded just like karl pilkington....
It was predictable and boring.

But not prejudiced or offensive. Thought so.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But not prejudiced or offensive. Thought so.

Again, you're putting words in people's mouth.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I have a friend/cousin/ best mate... classic get out of anything clause...
Ok livia

It's not a get-out clause. I do have a friend who is also a colleague. How is that a get-out clause?

Originally Posted by kizzy

BLAH BLAH...back tracking, that is exactly what you said livia....How he knew this child has no consequence as to how he chose to portray him....

Blah blah? How rude. What I said is here in black and white.

So anyway... what a lot of fuss over nothing. I watched it, I thought it was handled sensitively and I doubt anyone could have been offended.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Again, you're putting words in people's mouth.

I don't think I am actually...

Originally Posted by kizzy

Oh like he did with susan boyle you mean?....He was taking the piss.
And he is pushing boundaries yes, as he is getting away with it.

Originally Posted by kizzy

There are lots of comedies that mock stereotypes...But the star is not so openly offensive to individuals in the name of 'comedy'.
That is simply called 'mocking' ...And is a form of bullying.
Nobody should have the right to abuse another and attempt to pass it off as 'entertainment'

Originally Posted by kizzy

Thats not really the point is it?..
In this country we have hate laws, discrimination is not tolerated.
So why then is it acceptable when under the guise of 'humour'?

Originally Posted by kizzy

What is the topic of the thread gypsy?
And discriminating against disabled people is now a crime. Susan whilst being a lovely singer is also classed as having a disability.
She is not a 'mong' however anyone attempts to define the term...

Originally Posted by kizzy

He wrote the show.
Is that the issue.. Would you mind being insulted in front of millions of people?

Originally Posted by kizzy

No...
I'm sure she was thrilled.

Originally Posted by kizzy

The disabled..
Not according to him he isn't...have you read the OP?

Originally Posted by kizzy

I would rather him not claim it was satirical, and then backtrack and claim that the character is not disabled.

Originally Posted by kizzy

No...I disagree she highlights his contradictory statements, It shows his 'satire ' argument for what it is....rubbish.

Originally Posted by kizzy

Quote:
"Derek is a fictional character and is defined by his creator. Me," he says. "If I say I don't mean him to be disabled then that's it.

Then why suggest it is a satirical look at disability?...If he is not in any way disabled?.....

Originally Posted by kizzy

No, It doesen't work like that.
As with all prejudice its not for the abused to speak out its for the rest of society to say 'that is unacceptable'.

Originally Posted by kizzy

Why?...If It is being used to ridicule a section of our 'civilised' society then it is wrong.
Do you have any evidence to support this? Who are these 'most' disabled people?

Originally Posted by kizzy

Are you suggesting my concern is unjustified?....

Originally Posted by kizzy

The disabled are also classed as vulnerable, I thought you would know that ammi.

Most, if not all of these quotes that I've pulled out seem to be kizzy implying that she thinks Derek will be discriminatory against the disabled. This is of course before the show had even aired.

Nothing to do with putting words into people's mouths.

Originally Posted by kizzy

There was no 'pre show hysteria' and I am not eating my words either.
I did not find it funny, it was touching in parts but thats it. In fact I think he ripped the character off a female comedian who did a sketch of herself as a boy, can't remember what the show was called at all, I just remember she wore glasses that made her eyes look massive and said 'no nana' a lot.
Karl pilkington looked and sounded just like karl pilkington....
It was predictable and boring.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's not a get-out clause. I do have a friend who is also a colleague. How is that a get-out clause?



Blah blah? How rude. What I said is here in black and white.

So anyway... what a lot of fuss over nothing. I watched it, I thought it was handled sensitively and I doubt anyone could have been offended.

lol you never cease to make me chuckle liv, I am not the only person who had reservations about this 'comedy' ...
It was not as bad as I thought...It was just a really terrible programme is all.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

[Ammi]

..I thought it was quite sweet and sensitve..and I'm not really a big fan of him...I liked Ricky's character..although I did voluntary work in an old folk's care home once..and it was nothing like that..they're very very lively...full of beans and up for a laugh
..I didn't think it was really a comedy though

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

lol you never cease to make me chuckle liv, I am not the only person who had reservations about this 'comedy' ...
It was not as bad as I thought...It was just a really terrible programme is all.

Well, I wish I could say the same about you. Kiz.

No, there was a small minority of people who were getting their knickers in a knot by prejudging something.

[Kizzy]

jack
Most, if not all of these quotes that I've pulled out seem to be kizzy implying that she thinks Derek will be discriminatory against the disabled. This is of course before the show had even aired.

Nothing to do with putting words into people's mouths.


I did worry it might show the character 'derek' in a poor light giving a negative image of the disabled.
Why do you have such a problem with my opinion jack?
I was not the only person to find the concept of this show off putting ...
http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/896116-ric...r-reservations

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, I wish I could say the same about you. Kiz.

No, there was a small minority of people who were getting their knickers in a knot by prejudging something.

I offered a topic for debate livia...you should know how it works...I give my view, you give yours?
My knickers remain unknotted

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I thought it was quite sweet and sensitve..and I'm not really a big fan of him...I liked Ricky's character..although I did voluntary work in an old folk's care home once..and it was nothing like that..they're very very lively...full of beans and up for a laugh
..I didn't think it was really a comedy though

Neither did I tbh, It seemed more like an Alan Benett play than a comedy.The reference to old people and the picture being put in the bin as rubbish was subtle.
However his insistance that derek is not disabled is interesting, he clearly has complex social issues. To just suggest he is simply nice but dim is not recognising the need for awareness of mental health issues...But whatever, I don't want to stir another hornets nest do I?
http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/895410-ric...ot-that-bright

[thesheriff443]

kizzy did you not burn your knickers when you burnt you bra.lol
i would love yo see kizzy,liva and ammi in an old peoples home with knitting needles at the ready,lol

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

kizzy did you not burn your knickers when you burnt you bra.lol
i would love yo see kizzy,liva and ammi in an old peoples home with knitting needles at the ready,lol

Shaddap you!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I offered a topic for debate livia...you should know how it works...I give my view, you give yours?
My knickers remain unknotted

I am always amused when people assume I'm stupid... so I guess I should amend my last post to... you sometimes make me chuckle, but not for the reason you think.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I am always amused when people assume I'm stupid... so I guess I should amend my last post to... you sometimes make me chuckle, but not for the reason you think.

Not sure how you arrived at that livia...You are far from stupid, never doubt yourself
Most people on here crack me up all the time too, I'm glad I make you so happy

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Not sure how you arrived at that livia...You are far from stupid, never doubt yourself
Most people on here crack me up all the time too, I'm glad I make you so happy

I don't doubt myself Kizzy. Not ever. Perhaps you think you're being very subtle with your little jibes, but you aren't. I said you make me chuckle but not for the reason that you think. I never said you made me happy. Lots of people on here make me happy, but you are not one of them. Once again, even though my post was perfectly clear, you've misread it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't doubt myself Kizzy. Not ever. Perhaps you think you're being very subtle with your little jibes, but you aren't. I said you make me chuckle but not for the reason that you think. I never said you made me happy. Lots of people on here make me happy, but you are not one of them. Once again, even though my post was perfectly clear, you've misread it.

How rude! Don't read into my comments things that are not there...
please stop with the personal remarks livia...If you have nothing to say on the topic in discussion don't comment I have no wish to hear what yours or anyone elses opinion of me is...
I hope I'm making myself clear.

[Mrluvaluva]

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

How rude! Don't read into my comments things that are not there...
please stop with the personal remarks livia...If you have nothing to say on the topic in discussion don't comment I have no wish to hear what yours or anyone elses opinion of me is...
I hope I'm making myself clear.

Let's see if you can understand this: stop with the snide remarks and the provocation and just try to leave me alone. I in turn will do you the same courtesy.

[waterhog]

so bored of this guy - will not be watching -

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by WATERHOG

so bored of this guy - will not be watching -

..that's ok Joe..it's already been on LOL

[Crimson Dynamo]

Derek was funny, I just wish Life's too Short was funnier but watching it back its quite funny