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Old 10-04-2012, 08:39 PM #1
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Derek will be the sanest, most honest and most innocently pure character on the show. Gervais' comedy is more about the interactions of people, so it's more likely to be poking fun at people that continually undervalue real life versions of Derek.
Oh like he did with susan boyle you mean?....He was taking the piss.
And he is pushing boundaries yes, as he is getting away with it.
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Oh like he did with susan boyle you mean?....He was taking the piss.
And he is pushing boundaries yes, as he is getting away with it.
That's a completely different scenario to a show he's written, produced and directed.

I have a nephew with cerebal palsy, but I use "mong" all the time. Probably a good idea not to confuse his work, with twitter.
 
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That's a completely different scenario to a show he's written, produced and directed.

I have a nephew with cerebal palsy, but I use "mong" all the time. Probably a good idea not to confuse his work, with twitter.

Thats like saying #my best mate is black and I say the N word all the time'...

Who mentioned twitter?...
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I don't like Ricky Gervais. I liked The Office, but he generally doesn't make me laugh, I think he's a tool. However... No one's actually seen this programme yet and already some are starting to get outraged on other people's behalf. Wouldn't it be better to wait to actually see the show before deciding it should be censored?
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I don't like Ricky Gervais. I liked The Office, but he generally doesn't make me laugh, I think he's a tool. However... No one's actually seen this programme yet and already some are starting to get outraged on other people's behalf. Wouldn't it be better to wait to actually see the show before deciding it should be censored?
Who is suggesting a censor?...It's just the concept that is in discussion.

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Thats like saying #my best mate is black and I say the N word all the time'...

Who mentioned twitter?...
That's a complete false equivalence, and It's not the same thing at all. If you want to explain exactly why, just reply to this, and I'll explain it.

Apologies, for some reason I thought he'd called her that on twitter. I still don't understand what your outrage is. Is it this satire, is it the fact he makes personal jokes about people? Or is it that he used the word mong?
 
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That's a completely different scenario to a show he's written, produced and directed.

I have a nephew with cerebal palsy, but I use "mong" all the time. Probably a good idea not to confuse his work, with twitter.

As the brother of someone with cerebral palsy, I find that disgusting.
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As the brother of someone with cerebral palsy, I find that disgusting.
Agreed...But apparently theres a new meaning, that someone is just a 'complete idiot'....
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Agreed...But apparently theres a new meaning, that someone is just a 'complete idiot'....
It just goes too far a lot of the time. I'm not the kind of person to complain about TV or comedy, I can enjoy "near the knuckle" jokes but there is a line where you can go too far. I don't agree with whichever poster said that there shouldn't be any boundaries.

Take Frankie Boyle's recent attention over his comment about Katie Price's son, can anyone actually defend what he said? Comedy stops being appropriate when it's making someone a complete laughing stock, when their not equipped to defend or stand up for themselves. He literally put Harvey up for ridicule.

As for Ricky Gervais, I enjoyed parts of the office but other than that I've never found him remotely funny. Like Russell Brand his relative success made his ego balloon out of proportion, which made him even less likeable. However, I won't comment on "Derek" until I've seen it.

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..I don't really find Ricky very funny anymore..I liked 'The Office' and 'Extras'..I don't know if it's me or whether his comedy has changed..
..I saw a trailer for this..and it didn't look anything special..I like Karl Pilkington so I'll give it a try
..I don't see the point in complaining about prejudice..when it hasn't been aired yet..when you think about it..disabilities are raised in lots of ways on TV..dramas..documentaries..etc..and comedy is just a different form..it all brings awareness and that's good..if it's not funny I wont watch..as to whether it offends..well I can't say without watching it
...After actually giving it a few weeks to see what it's like..maybe do a survey of disabled people..and ask them if they are offended..rather than assume things on their behalf
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..I don't really find Ricky very funny anymore..I liked 'The Office' and 'Extras'..I don't know if it's me or whether his comedy has changed..
..I saw a trailer for this..and it didn't look anything special..I like Karl Pilkington so I'll give it a try
..I don't see the point in complaining about prejudice..when it hasn't been aired yet..when you think about it..disabilities are raised in lots of ways on TV..dramas..documentaries..etc..and comedy is just a different form..it all brings awareness and that's good..if it's not funny I wont watch..as to whether it offends..well I can't say without watching it
...After actually giving it a few weeks to see what it's like..maybe do a survey of disabled people..and ask them if they are offended..rather than assume things on their behalf
I did not assume anything....
I only asked for opinions based on the concept of the show, and the comments made in the article in the OP.
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And he is pushing boundaries yes, as he is getting away with it.
But isn't that one of the jobs of comedy?
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