[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I know it’s not easy, the mother of my daughter died from alcohol and pain killer abuse

That's hard. I'm sure you're doing great Sheriff.

Originally Posted by Redway

It is. The drinking was holding me back in lots of ways and I even lost a great job because of it. There were other issues on the job but the drinking was the final straw. At that point I was so unabashed about it that I’d be getting through half a bottle of gin and 3 litres of Strongbow and not even try to cover it up or hide/get rid of the bottles when the morning lot came in. I just didn’t care to hide my drinking. I could’ve been doing bits with ITV had I not been such an alcoholic but 2018 me just didn’t want to help myself, so I got sacked. The drinking problem cost me way more money than that but that’s just one example of how it cost me a really good opportunity and permanently closed a door on me for no reason. I’d give my all to that company if they took me back tomorrow now but they’re not trying to risk taking back an ex-alcoholic so it’s a no-go.

It's a life lesson. Glad you are more stable now. Try not to dwindle too much on the what ifs

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Hmmm…I find that hard to accept. Instant fame and fortune is fine until it starts to dwindle. Although those opportunities were there some find it difficult to deal with..we have seen it happen to so many. Drugs and alcohol are readily available and when your life turns around and that fame disappears it must be easy to turn to them as an escape..and addiction sets in. It’s a vicious circle and unless you have a strength within to stop the self destruction it’s inevitable that things will spiral out of control and a life ends because of it.
I’m sure his family are not relieved it’s over…they probably had hope that he could get through it. It’s just all very tragic for everyone involved.

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

No one chooses it bots, and this is a very ugly post for anyone who has lost someone to addiction.

The fact that we see so many people who got rich & famous young lose themselves to drugs, alcohol and depression should indicate strongly that it isn't, in fact, "every opportunity" at all and seems to leave a lot of them - maybe even most of them - feeling rather empty.

Agreed

Originally Posted by Zizu

Surely if he was addicted to drugs , alcohol and by some accounts … women .. why would he jump ?


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Are you serious?

I do wonder sometimes about people. Like the complete lack of emotional intelligence and basic understanding around mental health.

Originally Posted by bots

Sorry, but this guy had every advantage you could imagine, i'm not talking about anyone else, i'm talking about one individual, so do not put words in my mouth that i did not say

Advantage? What because he had money?

Again, complete lack of emotional intelligence and understanding.

[bots]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

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Again, complete lack of emotional intelligence and understanding.

Don't throw insults at me sonny, you act like you know everything, when you clearly know nothing

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Ahh Thomas. You're such a legend. One of the nicest people on this forum. Live long and prosper. Xx

Awhh bless you, thank you

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I didn’t know the bloke. No one here does. The whole culture of people crying over dead celebrities has always been very weird to me.

I’m just giving my opinion on what has happened. I don’t think he intentionally killed himself. He loved himself too much for that. The bloke waved his girlfriend off then got two escorts. The bloke was a sleaze.
He got off his face on drugs he couldn’t handle and paid the ultimate price. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I feel for his family.

It's called empathy and respect.

People feel like they did know him. You haven't got to physically know someone to feel compassion

Originally Posted by bots

Don't throw insults at me sonny, you act like you know everything, when you clearly know nothing

OK. I stand by comments.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Awhh bless you, thank you



It's called empathy and respect.

People feel like they did know him. You haven't got to physically know someone to feel compassion



OK. I stand by comments.

I feel compassion for his family. Not the idiot who fell off a building because he couldn’t handle his big boy drugs.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

That’s poor timing in the extreme


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[Glenn.]

Also his girlfriend went home and he got two escorts? Lovely fella

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Also his girlfriend went home and he got two escorts? Lovely fella

yes not a good look

[Cherie]

I think there might be more to the gf going home than has been revealed, that said they originally went for 5 days and that extended to 14 so she might have been ready to go home

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Also his girlfriend went home and he got two escorts? Lovely fella

Both Ed Sheeran and Robbie Williams have put posts out saying 'be kind'.

You don't know what someone else is going through.

If it was someone you loved how would you like it.

The guy was extremely troubled.

Shame on you.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Both Ed Sheeran and Robbie Williams have put posts out saying 'be kind'.

You don't know what someone else is going through.

If it was someone you loved how would you like it.

The guy was extremely troubled.

Shame on you.

Ahh Thomas. You're such a legend. One of the nicest people on this forum. Live long and prosper. Xx

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Both Ed Sheeran and Robbie Williams have put posts out saying 'be kind'.

You don't know what someone else is going through.

If it was someone you loved how would you like it.

The guy was extremely troubled.

Shame on you.

I didn’t know the bloke. No one here does. The whole culture of people crying over dead celebrities has always been very weird to me.

I’m just giving my opinion on what has happened. I don’t think he intentionally killed himself. He loved himself too much for that. The bloke waved his girlfriend off then got two escorts. The bloke was a sleaze.
He got off his face on drugs he couldn’t handle and paid the ultimate price. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I feel for his family.

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-photos.html

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-photos.html

this is getting ghoulish now, if they have pictures of him in his last hour there must be footage of him on the balcony or CCTV hopefully for his familys sake they will be able to verify whether he jumped or fell ..I feel for his family I dont think we need all this kind of reporting?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

this is getting ghoulish now, if they have pictures of him in his last hour there must be footage of him on the balcony or CCTV hopefully for his familys sake they will be able to verify whether he jumped or fell ..I feel for his family I dont think we need all this kind of reporting?

There are photos of him on the ground
dead.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

There are photos of him on the ground
dead.

awful

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cherie

awful

To put it in context
.
There wasn't photos. It was one photo showing his arm and hip, the rest of the body was blurred out.it was released by TMZ who have since taken it down as they got backlash

Understandable as disgusting thing to do

[arista]

You see how high
he fell from.


Under so many drugs,
did he know what he was doing?

[Glenn.]

The bloke made his ex get an abortion then harassed her to the point she has to seek legal solutions. Then cheated on his girlfriend with girls he paid for sex. Was pretty much a deadbeat dad to the kid he had with Cheryl.

And everyone is supposed to treat him like a sweet innocent man now because he got himself killed? Go out

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The bloke made his ex get an abortion then harassed her to the point she has to seek legal solutions. Then cheated on his girlfriend with girls he paid for sex. Was pretty much a deadbeat dad to the kid he had with Cheryl.

And everyone is supposed to treat him like a sweet innocent man now because he got himself killed? Go out

Their your words. No one has mentioned that he is innocent. I would like to think those who were closest to him he knew him best, their words speak volumes.

Regardless of any of that, it's a loss of life.

I won't change your opinion so I will leave it there.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Their your words. No one has mentioned that he is innocent. I would like to think those who were closest to him he knew him best, their words speak volumes.

Regardless of any of that, it's a loss of life.

I won't change your opinion so I will leave it there.

Reactions to the death of a celebrity is a complex matter



I never really cared for Liam .. or his solo music ( two decent songs and one of those was a duet the other a collaboration)

Never really cared much for Zayn but he has done some fantastic songs ..


Now Harry Styles’s personality always appealed to me plus he’s done loads of great songs - I would be really disappointed if something untoward happened to him


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[MTVN]

Is it just me or is a third floor room not that high, it seems like there could be a decent chance of surviving that depending how you fall

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Is it just me or is a third floor room not that high, it seems like there could be a decent chance of surviving that depending how you fall

Yeah, sounds like he landed head first though

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Is it just me or is a third floor room not that high, it seems like there could be a decent chance of surviving that depending how you fall

Head injuries …


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[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Is it just me or is a third floor room not that high, it seems like there could be a decent chance of surviving that depending how you fall

Exactly what I though MTVN,it does seem survivable,I guess its the way he fell.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The bloke made his ex get an abortion then harassed her to the point she has to seek legal solutions. Then cheated on his girlfriend with girls he paid for sex. Was pretty much a deadbeat dad to the kid he had with Cheryl.

And everyone is supposed to treat him like a sweet innocent man now because he got himself killed? Go out

Facepalm!!

We are not saying he was all sweet and innocent by a long chalk. Not at all? He was extremely flawed, damaged. As Thomas said, its empathetic to feel sorrow at his death. For him and his family etc alike.