[Kizzy]

Get the popcorn ready! our illustrious leader is making his closing speech at the conservative party conference.
Will he be able to top Ed Millibands stellar performance?

[Kazanne]

Well if you think Millibands was a stellar performance ,you will be really spoilt today Kizzy,you will see how a PM should speak,he will NOT be out to please everyone,he will not steal someone elses lines,infact he will tell you it's 'sink or swim' and the truth is always unpopular,he will quite rightly be wiping the floor with who was it again?oh yes,MillibandBring it on Mr Cameron

[Kizzy]

Sink or swim, interesting choice of words kezanne..
Daves mate George was selling lifejackets to those who could afford them during the budget.
HMS NHS is sinking as the rats have sold all the lifeboats too!

[Omah]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Get the popcorn ready! our illustrious leader is making his closing speech at the conservative party conference.

I can't be bothered - he talks the most utter rubbish - yesterday he said that the government hadn't made any u-turns .....

All I heard was ""Yeah, but, no, but, yeah, but, no, but" with an Eton accent .....

[Kizzy]

Of course he did Omah, thats the tory way deny everything and keep your head down when exposed till the dust settles wheres wally stylee, btw has anyone spotted Andrew Mitchell lately?

[Kizzy]

On now...

[Kazanne]

And may i say talking perfect sense to those who dont want owt for nowt

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Omah

I can't be bothered - he talks the most utter rubbish - yesterday he said that the government hadn't made any u-turns .....

All I heard was ""Yeah, but, no, but, yeah, but, no, but" with an Eton accent .....

Well you wont be commenting on this then i take it

[chuff me dizzy]

I cannot bear to look or listen to him

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kazanne

And may i say talking perfect sense to those who dont want owt for nowt

In a nutshell... this.

[Kazanne]

What great speech,Cameron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Millipede

[Kizzy]

As I suspected bash the hell out of benefit claimants and teaching unions, that was the long and the short of it.
Sink or swim, basically cutting adrift a huge section of society.
95% morgages in an unstable economy? A lack of social housing so he advocates the sale of remaining stock!
Capping housing benefit not greedy landlords charging exxtortionate rents for substandard accomodation....
No word on the police.
Publically humiliating Liverpool council suggesting they are in some way responsible for the loss of industry, without any explanation as to the ethics of the proposal.
A piss poor cluching at straws speech by a PM who knows his days are numbered.

[Livia]

Yes I thought it was a great speech too. Especially the bit where he reminded everyone who spent all the money and put us in the position we're in. Hard to argue with that... but of course, Labour supporters will try.

[joeysteele]

I am a bit disappointed if I am honest, I hoped to hear some words of change and compassion and found very little there.

It was largely a continuance of the 2010 election campaign,I agree hard decisions had to be taken and still need to be, he has however in my opinion,( and I don't really believe he himself wanted to go as far as to it),gone too far and with little compassion in his social policies overall.
I heard nothing to make me feel that come the next election he will be saying anything different than the last one.
The last election turned voters away from him, he had a commanding lead of 10+points over Labour before the election was called, he ended up not winning an overall majority and seeing that lead pegged back even after a totally disastrous Labour campaign.

While I agree with much that he said today, I cannot see him bringing any more voters to his party next time and no way will Labour be on only 29% this time round.
More compassion was needed to be displayed in his speech, he didn't take the chance to do so enough for me.

With so much pain to come for those who are the weakest and most vulnerable in the next 12 to 18 months from April next year, I cannot see him leading the Conservatives to anywhere near an overall majority and also likely not to being the largest party in 2015 even.

I like David Cameron but as in 2010,I couldn't yet see myself supporting the Conservatives at the next election and his speech today did nothing at all to tempt me on board.
I wish they would tell us the truth too, it was said the Coalition was made to all but clear the deficit by 2015, claiming Labours plans to halve the deficit in 4 years being bad for the Nation and unambitious.
In 2 and a half years the deficit was reduced by only 25% despite all these hard measures put in place and the deficits is rising again due to new and this Govt borrowing.
They will therefore fail to all but clear the deficit by 2015.

He was right,as he spoke from the experience of his own Child,that people did and still do see the wheelchair of a disabled person and not the person in it, I don't agree with him that has changed much even after the Paralympics.
The sad irony is though, that this coalition has created anxiety, confusion and even fear among many genuine diasbled people with much more of those policies containing near no compassion whatsoever still to come.
That he didn't address at all and in my view he needed to put an end to this demonisation of the disabled that even his Ministers help to fuel in the media.

For me, the conferences vote is Clegg's speech 3/10, Ed Miliband 8/10, David Cameron 7/10.
I have to say I have found near all the conferences apart from rare moments,the most tedious I have watched these last few years.

[Kazanne]

Good things can't be rushed Joey they have cut the deficit by a quarter already,given time they might just get us on our feet again,that's unless someone comes along to destroy the process!!

[Kizzy]

Some excellent points there joey, they have in no way put us anywhere near being on target for 2015 as you say despite the current reforms some of which began with labour and were simply adopted.
Where was the support for public services? banking reform?
an explanation of the recent virgin/ first rail debarcle that has just cost the taxpayer 40 million?
So may be content to namecall and scoff at the plight of 1000's of households in the UK, I for one do not find it constructive or fair.

[thesheriff443]

i did not hear his speach!
talk is cheap unless your on chat line.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Well you wont be commenting on this then i take it

No ..... not interested in tory-talk .....

[Livia]

'Blinkered' is obviously the new 'informed'

[Kizzy]

Omah, you should try deciphering some of the doublespeak, its fun...
Half-truths,untruths,rhetoric, spin,read between the lines and add in a few facts and bingo! =)

[thesheriff443]

if goverments did what they promised there would be no need to change them!

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Livia

'Blinkered' is obviously the new 'informed'

Is that the new Tory slogan?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Omah, you should try deciphering some of the doublespeak, its fun...
Half-truths,untruths,rhetoric, spin,read between the lines and add in a few facts and bingo! =)

Well you should be good at that Kizzy,listening to Labour for so long ,you'll be an expert

[Omah]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Omah, you should try deciphering some of the doublespeak, its fun...
Half-truths,untruths,rhetoric, spin,read between the lines and add in a few facts and bingo! =)

Been there, done that ..... CBA for this lot .....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Well you should be good at that Kizzy,listening to Labour for so long ,you'll be an expert

I'm not an expert and have listened to all parties kezanne.
30 u-turns since he became PM, dodgy dealings with murky murdoch ...Creating policies on the advice of venture capitalist backers...
Dipping into public funds to bailout banks and balled up transport deals.
I voted liberal at the last election but yes I am happy to say give Ed a go, I'm not so blinkered as to believe labour were responsible for a worldwide recession so at the moment based on what I have seen an heard they have my vote.